Sealed iPhone 5 64GB comes with what OS?

BlueMoonForever

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First, how much would you guys spend on a sealed iPhone 5 black 64GB version? Its a birthday present for my mom. Next, which OS would it have preinstalled? iOS 7, or 8. I ask because she has read that 8 isn't that great on older devices and hopes it has iOS 7 on it preinstalled. Thanks
 

Andropov

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iOS 6. The iPhone 5 (not C) was dropped when the iPhone 5S and iOS 7 came out, so as long as it's sealed it will come with iOS 6 preinstalled.

You/her should update to iOS 8 though IMHO, if not now at least when iOS 8.1 is available. An iPhone 5 is not considered an "old" device, iPhone 4S/iPad 2 are.
 

BlueMoonForever

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I didn't even think of that. Would it be possible for her to use 6 if she prefers that? Do apps even work with it anymore?
 

Jman13

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Correct. When iOS 7 was released, the iPhone 5 was replaced by the iPhone 5C. Both the 5C and 5S came with iOS 7, but by the time iOS 7 was released and on shipping phones, the 5 was discontinued. Of course an iPhone 5C is an iPhone 5 with a different body.
 

Small White Car

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I didn't even think of that. Would it be possible for her to use 6 if she prefers that? Do apps even work with it anymore?
I wouldn't advise it. Both 7 and 8 have given developers so many new APIs that she's going to quickly find she's stuck using old versions of most apps. And it's a problem that will only get worse with time.

If you're worried about iOS 8 slowing it down and lagging I'd look into finding out how to get iOS 7 on it, at least.

(Although, personally, I'd put 8 on it and if there are problems then I'd turn off stuff like background app refresh and handoff/continuity.)
 

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I wouldn't advise it. Both 7 and 8 have given developers so many new APIs that she's going to quickly find she's stuck using old versions of most apps. And it's a problem that will only get worse with time.

If you're worried about iOS 8 slowing it down and lagging I'd look into finding out how to get iOS 7 on it, at least.

(Although, personally, I'd put 8 on it and if there are problems then I'd turn off stuff like background app refresh and handoff/continuity.)
I have to disagree. Up until early September I was using my iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1

Did everything I needed. Facebook, Twitter, email, iMessage, SMS, calls. Apple store app still worked and all of my other iOS 6 apps still worked too. Currently, the Apple store is still letting you install older versions if it detects an older OS.

Now if she wants to be running the latest apps then that's a different story.

But that's just my relevant experience. I'm only on iOS 7.1.2 right now because I had to replace my iPhone 5 and that's what it came with. If I could roll back to 6 I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 

BlueMoonForever

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Thanks. How come you don't like iOS 7?

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I have to disagree. Up until early September I was using my iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1

Did everything I needed. Facebook, Twitter, email, iMessage, SMS, calls. Apple store app still worked and all of my other iOS 6 apps still worked too. Currently, the Apple store is still letting you install older versions if it detects an older OS.

Now if she wants to be running the latest apps then that's a different story.

But that's just my relevant experience. I'm only on iOS 7.1.2 right now because I had to replace my iPhone 5 and that's what it came with. If I could roll back to 6 I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Thanks. How come you don't like iOS 7?
 

Small White Car

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Did everything I needed. Facebook, Twitter, email, iMessage, SMS, calls. Apple store app still worked and all of my other iOS 6 apps still worked too. Currently, the Apple store is still letting you install older versions if it detects an older OS.
Ok, it's cool that you're fine with it but I feel funny suggesting to strangers on the internet that they run 2 year old apps that will never be upgraded again.

I mean, sometimes there's a good reason for that kind of advice but I'm drawing a blank here.
 

I7guy

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Ok, it's cool that you're fine with it but I feel funny suggesting to strangers on the internet that they run 2 year old apps that will never be upgraded again.

I mean, sometimes there's a good reason for that kind of advice but I'm drawing a blank here.
I agree, it's like advocating acting going back to windows ME.
 

eyoungren

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Ok, it's cool that you're fine with it but I feel funny suggesting to strangers on the internet that they run 2 year old apps that will never be upgraded again.

I mean, sometimes there's a good reason for that kind of advice but I'm drawing a blank here.
Think about the user and their usage. My mother is in her late 70s and she's still using iOS 4. Updating her phone has never been an issue for her because it does everything she wants and needs.

I didn't even realize she was using iOS 4 until my sister asked me to set her up on iMessage!

Now, if the OP's mom is connected and wants to use the latest and greatest and/or does some serious banking on her phone that's a different matter altogether.

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Thanks. How come you don't like iOS 7?

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Thanks. How come you don't like iOS 7?
I do not like it because I was jailbroken on iOS 6.1 and had everything set up the way I wanted it. I am jailbroken on iOS 7 now as well, but because of the OS itself a lot of things have changed. But chief among iOS 7's transgressions is all of that color. It's like Jony Ive picked up his kid from preschool and decided that primary colors were a great idea for iOS. Design by Fisher Price/Playskool and not Apple.

That's been mitigated somewhat for me because of Monochrome, a jailbreak tweak that will change all springboard icons to grayscale, but I still don't like the OS.

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I agree, it's like advocating acting going back to windows ME.
Some people are ok with that.

My coworker assists me daily in putting out ads and layout pages for two weekly newspapers. She does it on a 2005 PowerMac G5 using Adobe CS4 and a bunch of other older apps.

Until last year, I used that Mac and she was using our PowerMac G4/450 with the same app load out. We make PDFs to send out to our printer. The apps don't matter and both the G4 and the G5 do exactly what we need them to do. There's only a Mac Pro now because the G5 died last year and needed to be replaced (I resurrected it later).

My point is some people don't NEED the latest. If the OP's mom does, then fine, I'd recommend upgrading. But if iOS 6 does what she wants and needs, why bother (with the exception of security of course).
 

I7guy

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Think about the user and their usage. My mother is in her late 70s and she's still using iOS 4. Updating her phone has never been an issue for her because it does everything she wants and needs.

I didn't even realize she was using iOS 4 until my sister asked me to set her up on iMessage!

Now, if the OP's mom is connected and wants to use the latest and greatest and/or does some serious banking on her phone that's a different matter altogether.

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I do not like it because I was jailbroken on iOS 6.1 and had everything set up the way I wanted it. I am jailbroken on iOS 7 now as well, but because of the OS itself a lot of things have changed. But chief among iOS 7's transgressions is all of that color. It's like Jony Ive picked up his kid from preschool and decided that primary colors were a great idea for iOS. Design by Fisher Price/Playskool and not Apple.

That's been mitigated somewhat for me because of Monochrome, a jailbreak tweak that will change all springboard icons to grayscale, but I still don't like the OS.

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Some people are ok with that.

My coworker assists me daily in putting out ads and layout pages for two weekly newspapers. She does it on a 2005 PowerMac G5 using Adobe CS4 and a bunch of other older apps.

Until last year, I used that Mac and she was using our PowerMac G4/450 with the same app load out. We make PDFs to send out to our printer. The apps don't matter and both the G4 and the G5 do exactly what we need them to do. There's only a Mac Pro now because the G5 died last year and needed to be replaced (I resurrected it later).

My point is some people don't NEED the latest. If the OP's mom does, then fine, I'd recommend upgrading. But if iOS 6 does what she wants and needs, why bother (with the exception of security of course).
In today's age where everything is connected a fully patched o/s is needed. It's not how old the hardware is, it's how old the software is and how current are the patches.

Like you dislike IOS 7, iOS 6 looks so cartoonish compared to IOS 7, but more importantly it's not patched.
 

Small White Car

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Think about the user and their usage.
I did and the user said nothing like "...and my mom has very basic needs."

If you were asking about MY mom she's going to want the latest and greatest. If you're asking about my dad, yeah, he was perfectly fine with his iPhone 4 and only took my old 5C because I literally gave it to him for free. He didn't really care.

So like you said it really does depend on the user. But I can't guess what kind of person his mom is. It's up to the OP to give us extenuating circumstances. He didn't. So I'm not going to just make assumptions about his mom. I'll give the advice that I think is the best generic average advice. (Which I peg as being halfway between my two parents.)

Should the OP come back with more details, I'll revise that advice.
 

eyoungren

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In today's age where everything is connected a fully patched o/s is needed. It's not how old the hardware is, it's how old the software is and how current are the patches.

Like you dislike IOS 7, iOS 6 looks so cartoonish compared to IOS 7, but more importantly it's not patched.
I get all that. But some people are more worried about security than others.

I am not one of those people. But then I do not use my phone for any serious banking or payment deals. I do not use it as my major browsing device and it's never out of my physical posession.

Further, at home I do not own a single Intel Mac. All of my Macs are PowerPC and the highest those Macs can run is Leopard 10.5.8. That's a security flaw that would probably seriously bug the heck out of you, but we've never had an issue. Again, we aren't doing major things that actually demand the kind of security you're referencing.

I am not ignoring security, I believe in it. But I am also not overly concerned if I don't have all of the latest patches or updates.

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I did and the user said nothing like "...and my mom has very basic needs."

If you were asking about MY mom she's going to want the latest and greatest. If you're asking about my dad, yeah, he was perfectly fine with his iPhone 4 and only took my old 5C because I literally gave it to him for free. He didn't really care.

So like you said it really does depend on the user. But I can't guess what kind of person his mom is. It's up to the OP to give us extenuating circumstances. He didn't. So I'm not going to just make assumptions about his mom. I'll give the advice that I think is the best generic average advice. (Which I peg as being halfway between my two parents.)

Should the OP come back with more details, I'll revise that advice.
Fair enough!
 

mtneer

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iOS 6 is fast on the iPhone 5 - that's the native iOS that shipped with the hardware originally. I would recommend letting your mom use it on iOS 6 for a while and then check if she really misses anything newer.

However, iOS 6 will auto download the iOS 8 installer package without any prompts the moment your mom plugs her phone into the charger with WiFi on. Once that happens, it will take over several GB of storage on the device with no way to recover that space, unless your mom upgrades to iOS 6. That was one of the insidious ways Apple would drive up new OS installation counts. Thankfully it has been changed on iOS 7 and now you can delete the installer package.
 

I7guy

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I get all that. But some people are more worried about security than others.

I am not one of those people. But then I do not use my phone for any serious banking or payment deals. I do not use it as my major browsing device and it's never out of my physical posession.

Further, at home I do not own a single Intel Mac. All of my Macs are PowerPC and the highest those Macs can run is Leopard 10.5.8. That's a security flaw that would probably seriously bug the heck out of you, but we've never had an issue. Again, we aren't doing major things that actually demand the kind of security you're referencing.

I am not ignoring security, I believe in it. But I am also not overly concerned if I don't have all of the latest patches or updates.

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Fair enough!
I get what you say. People also don't think about why leaving their front door unlocked is a bad idea. I use my phone and PC for financial transactions, so I want my phone and workstation to be fully patched.
 

BlueMoonForever

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I did and the user said nothing like "...and my mom has very basic needs."

If you were asking about MY mom she's going to want the latest and greatest. If you're asking about my dad, yeah, he was perfectly fine with his iPhone 4 and only took my old 5C because I literally gave it to him for free. He didn't really care.

So like you said it really does depend on the user. But I can't guess what kind of person his mom is. It's up to the OP to give us extenuating circumstances. He didn't. So I'm not going to just make assumptions about his mom. I'll give the advice that I think is the best generic average advice. (Which I peg as being halfway between my two parents.)

Should the OP come back with more details, I'll revise that advice.
She said she'll try it on 6, but how would she go to 7 since Apple quit signing it?
 
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