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Blargkaboom points out that in one of the demo screenshots during the iPhone SDK event showed off a new search icon in the Contacts application.

This search icon is not available on the current version of the iPhone firmware. At present, users can only slide their finger down the alphabet to scroll quickly through their contact list, and can not search for specific names.

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hollerz

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I don't have nearly enough contacts for this to be useful for me, but hopefully it means there's gonna be a lot more little things like this that everyones been asking for that will make it just that much better.
 

joshysquashy

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I reckon it will be in line with the contacts list, above the letter A, and disappears when you scroll down - just like in Safari.

I also reckon that when you open your contacts, it will start at A, and you will need to scroll up in order to see the search bar.

Just compete guesses!
 

elppa

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Why can't they just put the search button next to the add button in the top bar?

I think that it would be easier to see there, many people may miss it in it's current location.
 

DenniZ

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weird thing is, you can already search if your going to send a sms to someone.

just type their name instead of their number in the recipients box thing.
 

stevearm

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weird thing is, you can already search if your going to send a sms to someone.

just type their name instead of their number in the recipients box thing.

Weird thing is... this is a contact list, not an SMS message
 

The Phazer

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This is certainly positive news, if nothing else because it indicates that firmware 2.0 is going to have some functionality improvements as well as just allowing apps. Thank goodness.

Phazer
 

elppa

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Weird thing is... this is a contact list, not an SMS message

Yeah, but the implementation's not much different it it, all your doing is searching a list of names to see if any match the text entered by the user.

I think that's the point DenniZ was making.
 

ryanw

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This is certainly positive news, if nothing else because it indicates that firmware 2.0 is going to have some functionality improvements as well as just allowing apps. Thank goodness.

Phazer


The nice thing about the SDK and the prospect of FREE apps through iTunes is that stupid stuff like "apple leaving out a search function" can be fixed with third parties. Since the applications have full access to the same API as apple, as well as the contact list, a developer could make a full featured contact list application that has tons of whizbang features. And also dial the call..
 

LinuxGigolo

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They pretty much have to add search, if only to support Exchange GAL (Global Address List). It would be incredibly inefficient and just plain bad to display 60,000 ... or 300,000 users in a GAL the way that the iPhone currently displays contacts. Heck, even Workgroup Manager in Leopard Server will only display 1000 at a time for this reason.
 

mainstreetmark

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The nice thing about the SDK and the prospect of FREE apps through iTunes is that stupid stuff like "apple leaving out a search function" can be fixed with third parties. Since the applications have full access to the same API as apple, as well as the contact list, a developer could make a full featured contact list application that has tons of whizbang features. And also dial the call..

Yeah, Mail could use a big facelift too, however, i notice Apple doesn't let you uninstall the factory apps, so I suspect we'll all be having a dedicated screen for all those old apps.

I would love LOVE someone to write an iPod with a Clickwheel. That little scrollbar thing sucks for podcasts. It's like I'm using a Zune.
 

coolbreeze

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I already search contacts using Google Maps. Just start typing and it finds it.

Annoying, yes, but possible.

I am at a loss as to why Apple didn't include this feature (as well as todo, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms).

I sure hope they finally will include searching. Nothing like wading through 500 contacts, searching for someone whom you forgot their name, but know what company they work for...
 

neven

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The nice thing about the SDK and the prospect of FREE apps through iTunes is that stupid stuff like "apple leaving out a search function" can be fixed with third parties. Since the applications have full access to the same API as apple, as well as the contact list, a developer could make a full featured contact list application that has tons of whizbang features. And also dial the call..

Let's put this particular pony of an idea to sleep gently, hm?

1. No, the SDK will not let you write an add-on for an existing iPhone app. You *might* be able to make a "search contacts" app, but that's not what people need - they want to search for contacts on the, umm, Contacts screen. The one that comes up when you select contacts.

2. No, the applications don't have anything like "full" access to the "same" APIs as Apple. That's a bit of marketing fluff from Apple, and it's largely true , but your non-hacky SDK app won't have access to a number of things on the iPhone, such as the Mail DB, Calendar events, iPod songs, or, heck, your Calculator results.

In the case of Contacts, your interface to them is the Contact Picker, which lets you choose contacts (manually). That's it. I'm not saying Apple won't open this up and let you arbitrarily snoop through the Contacts DB - they might. But the more important message is, just because 1. We have a rich SDK now, and 2. You want feature X, doesn't mean that those 2 things will marry successfully. There will be plenty of functionality that will have to be provided by Apple (and there are very good reasons for this, too).
 

neven

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I already search contacts using Google Maps. Just start typing and it finds it.

Annoying, yes, but possible.

This only works for contacts with mailing addresses entered. I'm going to guess that's less than 15% of contacts in a typical Address Book.

I am at a loss as to why Apple didn't include this feature (as well as todo, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms).

Because there was no Apple ToDo app on the Mac at that time either. I mean, it sucks, I know, but that's why.
 

The Phazer

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But the more important message is, just because 1. We have a rich SDK now, and 2. You want feature X, doesn't mean that those 2 things will marry successfully. There will be plenty of functionality that will have to be provided by Apple (and there are very good reasons for this, too).

Exactly - my skills only really let me very much scratch the surface of the SDK, but as I understand it it's not possible for developers to build something that alters the functionality of the existing apps. So developers can't use the SDK to make the keyboard function horizonatally in SMS or the Notes screen or anything. They could build an entirely new notes app that had a sideways keyboard as well, but that's... inelegant... to say the least.

Apple has to fix those things. And hopefully this is an indication that Apple *is* fixing some of those things with 2.0, because it's taken quite a while so far to fix some very obvious niggles.

Phazer
 

MarkW19

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I reckon the little magnifying glass icon is just showing you that you can jump straight to a letter, by scrolling down the right as you always could.

The icon is too small, and off-centre, to be a dedicated "search" function...

They should, and will, implement it though, across contacts/mail/calendar, they'll have to with the new Enterprise stuff etc.
 

nimbuscloud

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No one mentioned the "Groups" button that also have been added. That's what I wanted. A group for friends, shops, family, work, etc.

Great stuff.

:apple:
 

stagi

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that would be great, a search tool would make things so much faster for me :)
 

speakerwizard

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taken from macworld.co.uk
"in addition to these new iPhone network and security features, the beta iPhone 2.0 software provides several new Mail features such as the ability to view PowerPoint attachments, in addition to Word and Excel, as well as the ability to mass delete and move email messages."

so definatley gonna be more to come than exchange and apps, i wonder what other goodies.
 

avigalante

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No one mentioned the "Groups" button that also have been added. That's what I wanted. A group for friends, shops, family, work, etc.

Great stuff.

:apple:

The 'Groups' button has been there since the beginning. If you separate your contacts into groups in Address Book, you'll see the different groups on your iPhone.
 
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