So, with the fiasco about 'elf and safety here in the UK, what IS the legal definition as far as sales go? Are Apple allowed to sell refurbs? ( they are not new so seems fair ) SrcumpyMacs are selling them with the warranty, so I'm guesing that just new Pro's are off the menu? I ask all this as my fiancee is selling our Windows based gaming / server rig for a MP. We've found a few good deals, and I know Scrumpy have a good reputation, just wondered if anyone in the UK had seen a refurb on the Apple store site....None there now, and the option is greyed out.