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main new feature is not wireless, but a wired transfer of tracks/albums/artists between pods.
apple to release accessory to facilitate this within 2 months.

also, custom menus to be utilised by software upgrades via usb/firewire. inc 3rd party ipod custom software (travel guides, games etc.)

thats the word.
 
Eh, I'm still going to keep my 3G iPod, no new iPod for me! Unless it's a mini, if I could actually find one in stock somewhere.

The 5G should be the real head turner, just like the transition from 2G to 3G! I'm waiting for that. :)
 
It is no secret. It will be able to play WMA and real player files, but only when your I-pod is connected to a Linux box.
 
Stage said:
Oh, but they have promised to update the firmware on *my* iPod so it won't work with Real! How nice of Apple! F.U. Apple, I don't wan't that kind of "upgrade!" How about a firmware upgrade that benefits the *customer* instead of just Apple!

Have you ever used RealPlayer? The main draw to the iPod is that it's easy to use, if you start having third party plugins, and backwards engineered hacks there is no way that Apple can ensure you will have a good user experience.
 
I'd like the ability to input information into it, where you select letters one by one to store phone numbers and stuff.

This sort of ability would allow you to password protect your iPod, so nobody can touch it but you.

And I still want a dock for my car that's the shape of a tape deck.

-crackrock
 
Would be nice to have an ipod with 2 click wheels. that way Djs can use it for mixing and scratchin during gigs. They should do a deal with the ministry of sound.
 
Why would you get upset about Apple blocking Real?

Stage said:
--Oh, but they have promised to update the firmware on *my* iPod so it won't work with Real! How nice of Apple! F.U. Apple, I don't wan't that kind of "upgrade!" How about a firmware upgrade that benefits the *customer* instead of just Apple!

I'm not sure whether you're geniunely upset or are trolling, but why in the hell would anyone get upset about Apple blocking out someone like Real?

iTMS already has arguably the best catalog and ease-of-use of the competitors. Why in the world would people care to jump through the dumbest hoops to get content from Real, of all companies? Besides the legal argument of hijacking content, I would be scared to go near "Harmony" based on experiences with the crap they already offer.

This is akin to whining when you already have something like nice steak or halibut before you and manage to get upset with the restaurant because they don't offer White Castle sliders on the menu.

It makes little sense to care about that kind of choice.
 
Maybe the super secret thing has something to do with the iMac G5 and releaseing the 4G iPod functionality would clue us in to iMac G5 functionality... just pure speculation from the reliable voices inside my head. :)
 
Two questions:

Because of the click wheel can you still reset the iPod by holding down play and menu? i thought the wheel only allowed one of the four to be depressed at a time.

Second, has anybody started making new cases for the 4th gens yet? I had an iSkin and loved it, but they haven't got a 4th gen yet that I've seen...
 
Likely not

boma said:
You know the new blue highlight and text color? It's a color screen!

Not likely.. past gen pods have been photographed the same way.. the screens look blue in pics. Would be interesting if it was, though...
 
mpopkin said:
the chipset behind the mini can run video, photos and a whole lot more, but it it tied by what apple allows for, so i am guessing it has something to do with photos/video and music, maybe wifi :)


yeah I think there was a rumor/news item a while back that the maker of the chipset had been working toward on-the-fly MPEG-4 encoding/decoding for the iPod. Then think of the new QT/MPEG-4 codec announced at WWDC. Sounds like the iPod could become the set-top box (with AirPort Express).
 
Sabon said:
"I'm still waiting for the day when I can delete iPod's tracks and playlists using the device itself, because once I've returned to my computer, I can no longer remember which songs I don't ever want to hear again."

This is REALLY easy. When I find a song on my iPod I don't like I rate it with 1 (one) star. I never use 1 star for anything else. So the next time I sync my iPod to my Mac I can sort by rating and find all the 1 stars and delete them.

You could also make an On-The-Go playlist by holding down the "select" button, and when you sync it'll add the playlist to iTunes.
 
mpopkin said:
the chipset behind the mini can run video, photos and a whole lot more, but it it tied by what apple allows for, so i am guessing it has something to do with photos/video and music, maybe wifi :)

I agree... I am guessing you will be able to sync iPhoto and iMovie with the 4G iPod and Apple will release a cable to go from the dock connector to video/audio outs to hook up to a TV/display. There were rumors of this being included on the 4G before release...

Home on the iPod would be nice to, but I don't see why, from a purely hardware perspective, this would be 4G-only. Apple's whims are another issue.
 
utkucan said:
anyone remember home on ipod?

has to be... :)

If they put home on ipod that would be FANTASTIC. I have a laptop PC, but I'm getting a new one next year, and if I could do home on iPod, it would make me seriously consider an iBook... I'm sure there are a lot of other people out there who would too.
 
My guess is that this might have something to do with 60GB iPods...perhaps a delay in production or something, where Apple would have wanted to announce all the new features if they could have released all 4G models at once, but instead are holding back until the 60Gig ones are ready...release at Paris Expo or something with a big fanfare about "the biggest iPod yet, with even more features...oh and by the way, download this and you can use the features on any other 4G iPod as well"

I think talk of photo/video etc is a little unlikely - these things still have low-res, monochrome screens afterall - and even if only used as a device for streaming to a TV screen, preview on such a screen is so far behind whats been offered for years that it seems very unlikley coming from Apple at this stage...I suppose Apple would obviously come up with some clever preview on screen option, but it would seem to limit the functionality of such a feature a great deal if you have no way of properly previewing whatever media you have stored on the iPod without access to a TV screen.

...I'm with the wired/wireless connection to Airport for music streaming/remote control.
 
Great... Now convince me to let go of my 3G...

I did read in another article the underlying hardware is very different from the 3G iPods, so these 4G iPods are a very special breed indeed. Damn...

:eek:
 
Just got my new 4g 40gig straight from Shanghi today.

Only couple grumblings. The Firewire cord is two feet shorter than the one I got with my 3g 30gig. No slip/belt case, and no wired remote anymore. At least they left the dock as part of the 40gig... The clickwheel is worth the difference as far as I'm concerned, though.

I for one cannot wait for home on iPod...
 
deepkid said:
Not likely.. past gen pods have been photographed the same way.. the screens look blue in pics. Would be interesting if it was, though...

Actually I have a G4 iPod and the backlight does have somewhat of a blue tinge. It's not just in photographs. However, the color screen comment was a joke (I think).
 
Stage said:
There is only one reason not no tell people about the new feataures: Becasue they don't work yet.

Besides, I wouldn't count too much on un named, non-existant features. After all, Apple hasn't even fixed the bugs in the 3Gs yet.

--Oh, but they have promised to update the firmware on *my* iPod so it won't work with Real! How nice of Apple! F.U. Apple, I don't wan't that kind of "upgrade!" How about a firmware upgrade that benefits the *customer* instead of just Apple!

To this guy and all wondering why the tease.

Can you say Apple Expo 2004. ;)

And as for updated firmware just don't upgrade. And if you wants songs from real then download them. Change them to MP3s and loaded them on *your* ipod, that or use another player. You have choices so chose which makes you happy. Unfortunately, Apple can't make everyone happy. :rolleyes:
 
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