Sorry if this is out of place, but I don't want to join a different site when I know someone in here probably knows the answer. I live near an Intel plant, and a few years back I came across a very interesting garage sale. I wound up leaving the sale with a huge box of computer components that were so cheap that I didn't even need to look at them before buying them all. When I got home later I realized practically all of them were somewhat crude and were clearly labeled "reference" boards (these are motherboards and video cards mostly). There were also a number of processors in there, but to be honest I forgot all about them until tonight, when I was looking for an Intel processor that I might plug into a Mac Mini... anyway now that I actually look more closely at these, I'm not sure what I'm seeing. Do they look like standard processors to you? I'm not super-familiar with Intel processors like these, but shouldn't they have longer pins? Also, when I busted out the magnifying glass and saw that some of them even have "Secret" printed on them, I realized I was in over my head and thought I would inquire if someone else might have some idea of exactly what they are. The smaller ones *look* like Core Duos and are labeled 2004 but the rest of the printing is way too tiny for me to make out. The larger ones say 2003. Thanks for any information at all. These things have me really curious.