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LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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For the first time ever, setting up the iPhone was a PITA. I gifted my mother and aunt a iP12 Pro Max and Homepod Mini. My mother only had one iPhone previously which is the 8+, my aunt has always had iPhones and always able to restore and setup herself. They both have a MB Air.

I backed up both of their previous iPhones to their MB Airs using the encryption full backup option.

When I restored to their new iPhones, and it asked to verify the passcode, it didn't work. So I had to sign out their Apple ID, then sign back in multiple times, worked for my mother. For my aunt I had to create new passcode on old device, which I put the same passcode, then it finally worked on her new device.

Then to get their keychain working, I had to enter their MB Air password multiple times until it finally worked. Was bombarded with popups explaining how the IP passcode and Mac password are all connected to the Apple ID.

Too many pop ups, too many failed verify attempts, too much logging in and out, too many warnings, too much WTF is going on!!!

If I wasn't there to set it up for them, they would have never been able to do it. It was a lot more confusion compared to how I explained it. Everything is good now though. If it was just one phone and one account, I could easily say stuff just happens. But this was two phones on separate accounts.

I never experienced this for my iPhones and Apple devices, maybe cause I start fresh when I upgrade a phone. Are these new measures Apple is doing? Cause one wrong issue or mistake becomes a cluster F.


Also the HomePod Mini calling feature didn't work until I plugged it into their MB Air and did a restore/update. This was a day later after already plugged in and synced. It should have did a OTA update from jump.
 
With so much vague information it’s very difficult to understand what’s going on. The easiest setup is to bring your new phone close to your old phone, sign in with your Apple ID and scan the glowing blob on the old phone and keep them side by side. Job done.
 
I’ve never done my restores from a computer. I’ve done directly off the iPhone itself or over iCloud. It was painless and super easy and the phone did its thing on restoring all my apps, photos, messages, music, etc.
 
With so much vague information it’s very difficult to understand what’s going on. The easiest setup is to bring your new phone close to your old phone, sign in with your Apple ID and scan the glowing blob on the old phone and keep them side by side. Job done.

Does this restore everything, even log-in data within apps?
 
Weird. If you do phone to phone data transfer that’s easier. I literally laid my old phone and new mini side by side. The nfc I think tells the other phone it’s new and you’ll likely want to transfer data. Then the old phone generates a Apple QR code and you take a pic using the new phone and stuff transfers automatically. I was shock songs transfer! Settings, apps, all tarnsfer. Amazing good job Apple. Maybe that’s how they do portless iPhones because the WiFi-Bluetooth transfer was fast.
 
You can easily transfer your data through iCloud. Just login into the new one with the email id and restore the backup and transfer it to the new one.
 
When I bought my xs max two years ago, I transferred the entire phone, apps, passwords, etc. by the method described above. I have a 256gb icloud subscription and make sure my phone is backed up to icloud. That makes the transfer very easy as described above.
 
You can easily transfer your data through iCloud. Just login into the new one with the email id and restore the backup and transfer it to the new one.

But that won't bring over photos and videos that are not synced with iCloud.

And as I remember (things might have changed), it will not restore a new iPhone into a state that all the apps are already logged into. Basically clone like.

Encrypted local backup from a Mac device does that.

I've been using Encrypted local backup from a Mac device for the longest on my iPhones, and never had this issues in my OP before.
 
But that won't bring over photos and videos that are not synced with iCloud.

And as I remember (things might have changed), it will not restore a new iPhone into a state that all the apps are already logged into. Basically clone like.

Encrypted local backup from a Mac device does that.

I've been using Encrypted local backup from a Mac device for the longest on my iPhones, and never had this issues in my OP before.
the direct iphone to iphone transfer transfers vids and pics and music
 
the direct iphone to iphone transfer transfers vids and pics and music

Yep this is correct @LIVEFRMNYC , basically the phones detect each other via Bluetooth then swaps a private key to confirm you’re the owner of the new device, since you’ve signed in with the same Apple ID. Then the devices create a peer to peer WiFi connection between the 2 devices and voila. You get everything as is.

However, as an extra precaution some apps might log a user out when you do such restore but if you have the credentials stored on iCloud Keychain then it shouldn’t be difficult.
 
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