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Are you as perfect as you expect Apple to be? How does the world look to you from the cheap seats? Many here will always find a way to denigrate Apple no matter how well they succeed.
In this case Apple deserves to be denigrated. They've been gaslighting privacy and the lie of App Store security for years when in fact their walled garden has more holes than Swiss Cheese
 
So let's check the current status of things:
  1. the iOS App Store is still riddled with apps that scam and spy on users
  2. The "Opt Out of Tracking" button has done little in stopping Facebook's tracking (bonus!: Tim Cook met with Zuck to discuss a potential revenue sharing operation prior to introducing the anti-tracking button)
  3. Apple have STILL not patched the iCloud Backup loophole that lets them or a 3 letter look at (almost) the entire contents of your iPhone
  4. Apple (as far as we know) are STILL planning on introducing spyware into your photo library

That’s too much conspiracy theory level fluff

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Missing the fourth option which is adults that can manage themselves without the need for Father Tim to protect us from spying and malware (which already happens on the platform, be it from random rogue third parties, Facebook, Apple themselves, or government collaboration).

Where is the massive piracy and malware issue on Android? That reputation is mostly a relic of the past. Most Android users stick to the Play Store (despite the availability of third party stores) and their devices are fine. The extent of spyware on stock Android 13 is mostly the same as the extent of spyware on iOS because the bulk of it is being carried out by Facebook and TikTok.

Go find me some reptilian space lasers. If you’re going to post conspiracy theories go all the way, not just 75%.
 
As people point out, the only people who support sideloading on smart phones are:

- organized criminals spamming forums to demand sideloading.
- pirates who don’t want to pay for apps.
- just people with a bad grudge and a chip on their shoulder.

There is so much wrong with this statement I'm not sure where to begin.

Because you’re wrong and don’t want to put words down. Apple removed the apps….but you want them to be sideloaded? LMAO.
You left out:

- app buyers who'd rather support a developer/company directly instead of seeing a cut of sales go to a middle person

- people who want a legit app (e.g. VPN), but Apple caved to a country's (PRC) demands and removed them from the App Store

- Apple removing legit apps just because they haven't been updated in a while even if the apps don't require an update. (If it's not broke, why would the developer need to provide an update for it?)

- people who want a legit app (e.g. Fortnite), but the developer doesn't think Apple should get a cut of revenue for doing nothing and so Apple removed it from their App Store
 
Not only did the Android store have 7 times the number of bad apps, that was the Android walled garden. If you look at the side loading platforms, the percentage of compromised apps approaches 100%. Let one sideloaded app on your device and your entire device is compromised.
 
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How about this: don't download random, useless, boring games to your device! If you want entertainment, a bit of a rush, and to stimulate your brain, download the most popular chess app. You'll never need another ninja slasher again.
I don't know what you smoke while you play chess, because as much as I enjoy the game, I've never experienced anything close to "a rush" while checkmating someone. :)
 
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You left out:

- app buyers who'd rather support a developer/company directly instead of seeing a cut of sales go to a middle person

- people who want a legit app (e.g. VPN), but Apple caved to a country's (PRC) demands and removed them from the App Store

- Apple removing legit apps just because they haven't been updated in a while even if the apps don't require an update. (If it's not broke, why would the developer need to provide an update for it?)

- people who want a legit app (e.g. Fortnite), but the developer doesn't think Apple should get a cut of revenue for doing nothing and so Apple removed it from their App Store
and you left out the fact the requirement to subscribe is there so that customers can have a complete process, there is no ban from companies having a separate subscription process where apple receives nothing. so yah, more of the same old same old tired incorrect arguments
 
Because you’re wrong and don’t want to put words down. Apple removed the apps….but you want them to be sideloaded? LMAO.
No, because not everyone who wants to sideload is a criminal, a "pirate who doesn't want to pay for apps" or someone with a "grudge". I would have thought that obvious but evidentially not.

Let me deflate your asinine theory further: We've been sideloading on our laptops/desktops for decades now.
 
And another for the list of bullet points debunking Apple's lies about sideloading.

Because, in your world, there wouldn’t be hundreds more fake apps if sideloading were a thing? Actually appears to back up what Apple says… so much so, I wonder if Apple is somehow paying these Security Researchers so that they have something to show in front of congress.

“Don’t take our word for it. With our best efforts, some apps still get through as reported by these Security Researchers. Multiply this tiny sum by the number of malicious actors on the internet and our customers would be DELUGED with false apps. DELUGED I TELLS YA!”
 
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The App Store is already much worse with the sheer amount of knockoffs and bootleg apps. Articles like this is just more ammo in favor of sideloading and alternative app stores as it disproves Apple's lies more and more.
It actually supports Apple’s claims.

“This is how many fake apps there are on the one portal where there is a continuous activity to try to reduce the number of scam apps. How many fake apps does one think there would be if they were posted to areas that are not trying to reduce, but instead trying to INCREASE the number of fake apps exponentially every day?”

Security researchers discover 10. 10! There would be 1000 on day one if sideloading was a thing LOL! Good Security Researchers would say that “While this is bad, we do admit that there would be far more fake apps if users were free to obtain apps from anywhere. Apps that would likely do far worse than just pretend to be another app.”
 
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Everyone critical knows that the App Store sucks. Phil Schiller knows it but is being worked against by fresh graduates who infiltrated Apple like parasites who jave no idea what Apple stands for. All they do is make revenue by all means and save money instead of the App Store provide quality apps that make actual revenue, like it did when it first went online. Not even talking about The Mac App Store is even worse than Google Play Store and feels like a raided supermarket in the middle of nowhere. As long these bogus app generate income for themselves and Apple, these fresh graduates working at Apple only care about the numbers.
 
there is no ban from companies having a separate subscription process where apple receives nothing. so yah, more of the same old same old tired incorrect arguments
This is not an incorrect argument. Fortnite was removed from the App Store specifically for this reason. Epic set up their own in-app payment system so Apple wouldn't get a cut. Apple didn't like that and booted Fortnite off the App Store.

Developers (e.g. Spotify, Netflix) weren't even allowed to mention within their own app other ways to pay for a subscription until a judge ruled that that's a no-no.

 
Not only did the Android store have 7 times the number of bad apps, that was the Android walled garden. If you look at the side loading platforms, the percentage of compromised apps approaches 100%. Let one sideloaded app on your device and your entire device is compromised.
The ONLY sideloaded app on my android phone is AFWall+ (a real firewall that isn't available on the PlayStore) and it makes my phone even more secure. Heck, my phone is more secure than your iPhone since any tracking data never leaves my phone. Until Apple puts a proper firewall on iOS, all the talk of security is just lip flapping.

Y'all know why Apple will never put a firewall in iOS? Because they know people will use the firewall to block ads. No ads = no ad revenue. That's the same reason Google banned AFWall+ from the PlayStore.
 
Wasn't the whole point of the walled garden to prevent suspicious apps and developers?

You may not be aware that in life where humans are involved there isn't 100.0% perfection 100.0% of the time.

You may also not be aware of the number of apps Apple rejects. For 20202:
  • It rejected almost 1 million apps that were submitted for the first time
  • It rejected almost 1 million app updates.
  • 48,000 apps were removed for using “hidden or undocumented features,” often software tools that Apple uses internally for its own apps.
  • 150,000 apps were removed because they were spam or copied another app.
  • 215,000 apps were removed because they collected too much user data or other privacy violations.
  • 95,000 apps were removed for fraud, often because they changed after Apple’s review to become a different kind of app, including gambling apps or pornography.
  • Apple booted 470,000 accounts from its developer program because of fraud.
 
They found 10 fraudulent apps... out of 2,000,000 apps?

Is this really a cause for concern?

My other question is... how many fraudulent apps were stopped from getting on the App Store?

Of course we don't like it when bad apps sneak through the app review process. But I'd love to know how many bad apps are actually prevented from getting on the App Store in the first place.

🤔

EDIT: The comment above provides a lot of info. Thanks @citysnaps 👆
 
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Sure, exactly as with
"Ask app do not track"... please 🤔
I would like to have "Block app from tracking"

I would like that any app that is (re)installed will always be blocked from all kinds of access, especially the local network access. In fact the best thing would be to limit internet access too; firewalled to only fully checked servers. I've seen many applications and especially hardware trying to access alternative DNS servers and other servers that have in no way anything to do with the function of the app/hardware.


I was kind of hoping that Apple would be better at spotting suspicious developers than I am.

Is it just me? Looking at that list I keep seeing titles that Chinese developers give to their apps.
 
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But but but the AppStore is so secure... 🤣
Looking forward to 2023/2024 when the EU activates DMA and DSA, and to all the bills in USA & Co. that will take place.

You and me both.

And even once they do, the forums will still complain and make bad takes about alternative app stores/sideloading/installing software like normal on desktop.
 
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