Exactly, and now the US government gets around their inability to directly do this type of activity (constitutionally forbidden) by just asking big tech to do it for them. Since they've become symbiotic, big tech obliges. What I actually find even more disgusting is that they are openly flaunting it now.
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It's forever been a dream of some powerful folk that they can essentially 'kill' someone without actually ending their life by simply disabling their digital presence. Imagine a future with no cash and going anywhere requires the use of a digital identity controlled by third parties, you simply wouldn't be able to live without the use of that digital identity.
Its ok we’re only unpersoning the truth-deniers.
I've worked as a SW engineer. My current focus is deep learning. You two (sdf and Le0M) are naive.
False positives are ALWAYS possible. Out-of-domain data is ALWAYS possible. Buggy software is ALWAYS possible. Incompetent usage of software is ALWAYS possible. I don't care if someone wrote a proof on a piece of paper.
And this isn't even an issue of technology. This is an issue of policy and user privacy. Apple espouses "privacy is a fundamental right", yeah right up until a time a politician says it isn't.
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Its short sighted with a poor understanding of history for everyone to treat any government or big corporation with this much leeway. Govt elites abuse the people whenever they can. Big tech in areas, in areas in which they have complete control over platforms, have shown themselves to be absolutely abusive of their power. All a long way of saying I agree completely. Laws exist to protect us and just because a “private corporation” does it, it is not transformed into a free for all where no protections exist. We control who corporations hire, how they fire, their safety measures, their mergers, the insurance they can buy, their quality control and on and on and on. This is just a new innovation the people need to regulate if it gets out of hand.
Where did you get your PhD in Computer Science? If you don't have one, then you're in that 99.99%.
We already living in a dystopian season. We crossed the line a few years back. Its just gonna get worst for all good intentions.
“Dystopia: A futuristic, imagined universe offering the illusion of a perfect society maintained through corporate, bureaucratic, technological, moral, and control systems.”
And also for your face. I mean, don't take this the wrong way, but you look like you're up to no good.
But since it's child porn, it's okay, right?
I guess that's Apple's attitude.
By that same token, the FBI could just say to Apple "hey, Tim--terrorist related, okay? Open it up."
So, the level of privacy afforded by Apple is determined by what the government is searching for?🧐
I guess that's Apple's attitude.
By that same token, the FBI could just say to Apple "hey, Tim--terrorist related, okay? Open it up."
So, the level of privacy afforded by Apple is determined by what the government is searching for?🧐
Why are you not sure? The motive is clear – to a living person at least – that the motive is to help prevent the abuse of children.
It’s an honourable motive, but I’m very wary of the process of an account being shut down unless the account owner has an opportunity to respond. Accidents and technical faults happen, and many people absolutely rely on having a functioning Apple ID. It would be a travesty if you got a dodgy photo from a stranger and that got backed up to iCloud, resulting in you being locked out of your device.
Let's see...iCloud... Apple's servers (or perhaps google's), right?
Why in the world would Apple/Google want child porn on *their* servers?
Apple doesn't.
Code signed by Apple, part of the OS, does on device.
If you can't trust that, you shouldn't be using iOS because Apple-signed OS code examining photos is totally unavoidable. There's not a reasonable level of skepticism if you plan to continue to use an iPhone.
Here's a quote:
"The government could extend this breach of privacy and demand that Apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages, access your health records or financial data, track your location, or even access your phone’s microphone or camera without your knowledge."
Can you guess who wrote that? Here's the solution.
"The government could extend this breach of privacy and demand that Apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages, access your health records or financial data, track your location, or even access your phone’s microphone or camera without your knowledge."
Can you guess who wrote that? Here's the solution.
There absolutely is: In the scenario you outlined, you would not just the receiver but the origin of the child porn. That absolutely needs to be investigated in a rational society, especially a democratic one.
There is no "opt-out" of nonsense ability on MR, as that is included by default with all user accounts.
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Apple cannot access encrypted stuff in iCloud without the encryption key. Anything you think it can, they either have the key available or it's done on device.
Nobody says that stuff doesn't exist. It does. But the assumption here is wrong. This isn't a mystery (and never has been) and it's all documented (and has been for years)! This is not an "aha!" moment.
Statement by the EFF:
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Apple's Plan to "Think Different" About Encryption Opens a Backdoor to Your Private Life
Apple has announced impending changes to its operating systems that include new “protections for children” features in iCloud and iMessage. If you’ve spent any time following the Crypto Wars, you know what this means: Apple is planning to build a backdoor into its data storage system and its...
I take it you are willing to be the trillionth account that ends up in tech / LEO hell.
Sure. They only access it on your device before it's uploaded.
As long as the "friend" isn't a minor child, I don't see the problem between consenting adults, although Dr. Phil may have some questions for both hairless parties.