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csubear said:
i'm not sure that Microsoft uses libpng. They might, then again i doubt it. They stay away from open source like the plague.
According to this article, Microsoft uses libPNG for Internet Explorer.
 
musicpyrite said:
Yea, I've tried them all, Camino, OmniWeb, Firefox, Mozilla, Internet Explorer, just about every browser I can find for the Mac, and they all have problems, and I just like Safari better, but Firefox comes in a close second, and if Apple screws this up, like MS did with IE, I'll be using Firefox.

I like Firefox over Camino for sure, but I don't like the hidden floating window that it creates (hit your all windows expose key) ... something about windows that I don't open on my sceen that bothers me.
 
morkintosh said:
...but I don't like the hidden floating window that it creates (hit your all windows expose key)...

Holy Crap! I just opened up firefox to test this out. What's up with that lil' spy window? Is that where they hide the malicious .PNG? I bet it hides in the shadows so it can hit you over the head with a sock full of nickels when you're not paying attention.
 
greenmonsterman said:
Holy Crap! I just opened up firefox to test this out. What's up with that lil' spy window? Is that where they hide the malicious .PNG? I bet it hides in the shadows so it can hit you over the head with a sock full of nickels when you're not paying attention.

It's there to give a home to the menu bar when all "real" windows are closed. If not for Exposé, no one would have ever known about it; it's just another ugly hack like in so much other multiplatform software.

I do remember reading that someone was going to fix it, but I guess it's not much of a priority until the socks come out.
 
iMeowbot said:
It's there to give a home to the menu bar when all "real" windows are closed. If not for Exposé, no one would have ever known about it; it's just another ugly hack like in so much other multiplatform software.

I do remember reading that someone was going to fix it, but I guess it's not much of a priority until the socks come out.

That's wierd...

Anyways, so if I update to 10.3.5 are you saying that I do not need to update again? The .5 update will take care of all the .png problems?

Mike
 
iMeowbot said:
It's there to give a home to the menu bar when all "real" windows are closed. If not for Exposé, no one would have ever known about it; it's just another ugly hack like in so much other multiplatform software.

I do remember reading that someone was going to fix it, but I guess it's not much of a priority until the socks come out.

huh, I always figured it was there to provide some sort of Cocoa functionality
 
Brother Michael: The secret little Firefox window has nothing to do with libpng, it's just a cosmetic bug in the browser. I wouldn't worry about it.

morkintosh: Even though it's a bundle, Firefox is really a Carbon app with all the gunk from a normal Unix installation hidden in there. Camino's the one that uses a Cocoa wrapper.
 
Breech or Breach?

...Apple has released a security update to address a recent issue regarding a security breech in Safari. The breech affects Safari and Mozilla-based browsers, including Camino & Firefox...

Am I really the first among 32 readers to notice that our friends do NOT mean "breech" but "breach" ?? A breach is a gap or opening, while a breech is either the human rear end or the clothing put over it, as in breeches (pronounced "britches" where I grew up).

Sorry, I know security is a serious issue, but so is good writing and editing. Someone on the staff has made a breech of him/her self.

Onward...
 
it's nice to see they reacted to this security issue pretty quickly, but I think we shouldn't have to dl these updates anyway.. I know it's too much asked, but these issues do pop up much too often.
 
musicpyrite said:
I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but do any of you think that Safari is becoming the Internet Explorer of Windows??

That logic would be:

1. Microsoft has frequent, massive problems with dire real-world consequences. Data is lost, privacy is compromised, computers are hijacked, and protecting yourself often breaks other things unexpectedly. Critical patches are constant, and keeping your system and virus definitions up-to-date is a vital task to stay ahead of.

2. Apple doesn't have such severe issues and consequences, and doesn't need to patch things anywhere near as often, but no OS will ever be perfect.

3. Therefore Apple security is as bad as Microsoft's.

I don't get it, but there you go :D People repeat that logic all the time.
 
Brother Michael said:
That's wierd...

Anyways, so if I update to 10.3.5 are you saying that I do not need to update again? The .5 update will take care of all the .png problems?

Mike
No. The Security Update is apparently NOT included in 10.3.5
 
New Imacs? *NM*

Porchland said:
The Apple Store is down. I repeat, the Apple Store is down.

@0915 EDT - Nope: Looks like Motion and Production Suite
 
The Apple Store was down but now it's back up :)

The Apple Store features the release of Motion and Apple Production Suite (FCP HD, DVDSP2 and Motion). There is also an upgrade from Final Cut HD to the Production Suite (akin to Adobe's Creative Suite bundle). Shake remains a seperate product as of this time.

Motion is AU$449
Production Suite is AU$1999
Upgrade from Final Cut Pro HD is AU$1099
 
Hope this isnt too far off topic. But i'd like to see some web publishing tools added to Safari. I use Mozilla for this, and it's the only time I have to use another browser other than safari.
 
Back on topic...

Although I see that there are negative ratings, I haven't seen any posts here to indicate what, if any, problems anyone has had with this update.
 
Dreamweaver MX 2004

I installed the security update (now has reappeared in Software Update) but and now I can only open Dreamweaver once. If I quit and try to reopen it, Dreamweaver will not open. I have to restart and then open it again. :( Has anyone had this issue?

-Alex
 
Dreamweaver MX has no problems for me after the security update--but I haven't installed 10.3.5.
 
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