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This update apparently shows to users of OS X 10.3.x Panther, but not for OS X 10.4 Tiger users.
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Security Update 2005-005
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Now available via Software Update:
This update apparently shows to users of OS X 10.3.x Panther, but not for OS X 10.4 Tiger users.
I'll say. Is it just me or is the rate at which Apple upgrades its operating systems just a little rich - $200 here in Australia to get Tiger ... seems like only yesterday I paid that for Panther!!wdlove said:
great... didn't we just have a security update?
a couple of them were reported by the same guy... do people sit around and try to figure out ways to exploit the OS? i wonder how many developers or active hackers are floating around these forums. do any of you try to find/stumble across security holes? report bugs?
is it because mac users are proactive about fixing and reporting problems instead of just sitting around and compaining about them?
just curious.
-to
a couple of them were reported by the same guy... do people sit around and try to figure out ways to exploit the OS? i wonder how many developers or active hackers are floating around these forums. do any of you try to find/stumble across security holes? report bugs?
is it because mac users are proactive about fixing and reporting problems instead of just sitting around and compaining about them?
just curious.
-to
I bet there will be a 10.3.10 some day.
Re upgrade rates... if you bought the last OS recently, you're free to keep using it. Your Panther apps running in Panther will keep right on working. If you find Tiger has value, you can get it--I'm glad I did!--but that's your choice.
OS X is a new (well, young) and revolutionary OS. Any new OS will grow and improve rapidly at first, and then that slows down over time. This is happening, naturally, with OS X, and Tiger will be with us even longer than Panther was.
And these are big upgrades. The decimal point is just a naming convention to let Apple keep using the "X" logo for branding.
To put the upgrade cost issue into perspective:
Since OS X 10.0 was released in early 2001, there have only been THREE paid upgrades of OS X ever: 10.2, 3, and 4 (remember: 10.1 was free). The time leading up to those paid upgrades was 17 months, 14 months, and 18 months. NEVER 12 months as people often falsely repeat. The next one is expected to be even longer in coming--some time in 2007 maybe.
10.0 Cheeta
...17 months (includes free 10.1 upgrade 11 months before Jaguar)...
10.2 Jaguar (first paid upgrade)
...14 months...
10.3 Panther (second paid upgrade)
....18 months...
10.4 Tiger
....even longer before the next one?
If you'd rather Apple not improve things so much, and release big upgrades every 2 years instead of every year and a half, you can achieve that by just not buying every upgrade. Lots of people get by just fine that way, just like they don't buy every version of every software program they own. Even NEW apps often run on older OS versions... and the ones you already have will of course keep running.
Re upgrade rates... if you bought the last OS recently, you're free to keep using it. Your Panther apps running in Panther will keep right on working. If you find Tiger has value, you can get it--I'm glad I did!--but that's your choice.
OS X is a new (well, young) and revolutionary OS. Any new OS will grow and improve rapidly at first, and then that slows down over time. This is happening, naturally, with OS X, and Tiger will be with us even longer than Panther was.
And these are big upgrades. The decimal point is just a naming convention to let Apple keep using the "X" logo for branding.
To put the upgrade cost issue into perspective:
Since OS X 10.0 was released in early 2001, there have only been THREE paid upgrades of OS X ever: 10.2, 3, and 4 (remember: 10.1 was free). The time leading up to those paid upgrades was 17 months, 14 months, and 18 months. NEVER 12 months as people often falsely repeat. The next one is expected to be even longer in coming--some time in 2007 maybe.
10.0 Cheeta
...17 months (includes free 10.1 upgrade 11 months before Jaguar)...
10.2 Jaguar (first paid upgrade)
...14 months...
10.3 Panther (second paid upgrade)
....18 months...
10.4 Tiger
....even longer before the next one?
If you'd rather Apple not improve things so much, and release big upgrades every 2 years instead of every year and a half, you can achieve that by just not buying every upgrade. Lots of people get by just fine that way, just like they don't buy every version of every software program they own. Even NEW apps often run on older OS versions... and the ones you already have will of course keep running.
So... will the first security update for Tiger be 2005-006? In which case all the Tiger users wonder what's happened to number 5. Or will they come up with some other naming convention?
Has there been a Tiger update yet that shows up in software update? There was that Java update but I think you had to install it separately. My vote is no 10.3.10.
I bet that most of this isnt a security update at all, but rather some updates that may or may not be security related because Apple ran out of update numbers.
pgwalsh said:I'd love to use my software update tool, but it's broken in my version of Tiger.
Now, I wonder why that would be.
broken_keyboard said:Wow, that's a lotta security holes. You 10.3 weenies better install right quick!
10.3 weenies.... I love it. Let the divide begin!
broken_keyboard said:Wow, that's a lotta security holes. You 10.3 weenies better install right quick!
Well, I will only be a weenie for 5 more days. (That's when my copy of Tiger is supposed to arrive.)
Go Weenies!
Apple will continue with the security updates but I imagine that they will want to wrap development on 10.3 as soon as possible and get onto 10.5.
The end of 10.2 was x.x.8 which came out just before Panther and there was no more... expect for the security updates.
As for names I see no reason to let go of the big cat theme... we still haven't see a lepoard or an ocelot or a lion for that matter... maybe they could start with domestic cat names like persian or tonkinese...
Now don't start with the ***** jokes!!
Am off to buy tiger this afternoon (hopefully)
Apple will continue with the security updates but I imagine that they will want to wrap development on 10.3 as soon as possible and get onto 10.5.
The end of 10.2 was x.x.8 which came out just before Panther and there was no more... expect for the security updates.
As for names I see no reason to let go of the big cat theme... we still haven't see a lepoard or an ocelot or a lion for that matter... maybe they could start with domestic cat names like persian or tonkinese...
Now don't start with the ***** jokes!!
Am off to buy tiger this afternoon (hopefully)
