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Buadhai

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Jan 15, 2018
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Korat, Thailand
First, let me point out that I live in Thailand.

I'm looking for a programmable universal remote that can control a SONY Sound Bar (no CEC, no ARC), an older Samsung TV and an Apple TV 4. I was previously using a Logitec Harmony 650 which worked perfectly until I dumped a cup of coffee on it.

I'd buy another, but it seems that model has been discontinued. The successor model (665) seems expensive and gets some poor reviews on Amazon.

I have looked at this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-apple-tv-a-remote-that-can-be-found.2281936/

The Samsung remote can control the ATV, but it cannot turn the sound bar on (no CEC).

The ATV remote can turn the TV on and control the volume on the sound bar, but it can't change channels on the TV.

I bought a non-programmable remote, but it's pretty much a disaster. It's really not much better than using three dedicated remotes. The buttons and text are so tiny that I need reading glasses and a bright light to operate it. Every action requires two button presses (first select the device, then the action). Some require three: select the device, press the shift key, select the action. Sometimes the ATV does not respond to the remote. If you forget to select the device before you select the action, you may find yourself in a twisted, albeit hilarious, mess. (While watching TV I forget to select the TV mode and ended up doing all sorts of things to my ATV, which, of course, was not visible to me at the time.)

Price is not a huge object, but anything imported and costing over 1000 baht (about US$30) will incur customs duties and excise tax. Not huge but significant.
 
Take a look at the various Logitech offerings. They have really cornered the market.
 
There are some expensive universal remotes that home theater installers use.

See:


 
As I said in the OP, I was happy with the Logitech Harmony 650. The replacement, the 665, will cost me US$105.64 from Amazon which includes $12.12 shipping and $19.55 customs deposit. I'm not sure I'm willing to pay that much for a device that's only going to control three components: TV, sound bar, Apple TV.
 
Has anyone tried a SofaBaton?

It seems to do what I want it to do without the high price and overkill of the Logitech products. It has decent reviews on Amazon.

Perhaps I'll give it a go.
 
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I ended up buying the SofaBaton. It has some good reviews on YouTube and elsewhere. Here's one:

SofaBaton U1 Universal Remote - Review

It wasn't cheap. The price on Amazon is $49.99. In spite of what their order page says, they would not ship to Thailand so I had to use ComGateway which cost $33.15. DHL (ComGateway's shipper) asked for 669.40 baht in customs fees and duties (about US$22.31) for a total of $105.45; over double the Amazon price.

If it ever arrives I'll do a brief write up.
 
First, let me point out that I live in Thailand.

I'm looking for a programmable universal remote that can control a SONY Sound Bar (no CEC, no ARC), an older Samsung TV and an Apple TV 4. I was previously using a Logitec Harmony 650 which worked perfectly until I dumped a cup of coffee on it.

I'd buy another, but it seems that model has been discontinued. The successor model (665) seems expensive and gets some poor reviews on Amazon.

I have looked at this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-apple-tv-a-remote-that-can-be-found.2281936/

The Samsung remote can control the ATV, but it cannot turn the sound bar on (no CEC).

The ATV remote can turn the TV on and control the volume on the sound bar, but it can't change channels on the TV.

I bought a non-programmable remote, but it's pretty much a disaster. It's really not much better than using three dedicated remotes. The buttons and text are so tiny that I need reading glasses and a bright light to operate it. Every action requires two button presses (first select the device, then the action). Some require three: select the device, press the shift key, select the action. Sometimes the ATV does not respond to the remote. If you forget to select the device before you select the action, you may find yourself in a twisted, albeit hilarious, mess. (While watching TV I forget to select the TV mode and ended up doing all sorts of things to my ATV, which, of course, was not visible to me at the time.)

Price is not a huge object, but anything imported and costing over 1000 baht (about US$30) will incur customs duties and excise tax. Not huge but significant.
Definitely go with Logitech/Harmony.
 
First, let me point out that I live in Thailand.

I'm looking for a programmable universal remote that can control a SONY Sound Bar (no CEC, no ARC), an older Samsung TV and an Apple TV 4. I was previously using a Logitec Harmony 650 which worked perfectly until I dumped a cup of coffee on it.

I'd buy another, but it seems that model has been discontinued. The successor model (665) seems expensive and gets some poor reviews on Amazon.

I have looked at this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-apple-tv-a-remote-that-can-be-found.2281936/

The Samsung remote can control the ATV, but it cannot turn the sound bar on (no CEC).

The ATV remote can turn the TV on and control the volume on the sound bar, but it can't change channels on the TV.

I bought a non-programmable remote, but it's pretty much a disaster. It's really not much better than using three dedicated remotes. The buttons and text are so tiny that I need reading glasses and a bright light to operate it. Every action requires two button presses (first select the device, then the action). Some require three: select the device, press the shift key, select the action. Sometimes the ATV does not respond to the remote. If you forget to select the device before you select the action, you may find yourself in a twisted, albeit hilarious, mess. (While watching TV I forget to select the TV mode and ended up doing all sorts of things to my ATV, which, of course, was not visible to me at the time.)

Price is not a huge object, but anything imported and costing over 1000 baht (about US$30) will incur customs duties and excise tax. Not huge but significant.
If you've still got the hub for your harmony remote, then you could potentially rig up a Raspberry PI and use Homebridge - https://homebridge.io

As other people have said, Logitech are the best by a considerable margin. Maybe check out eBay for them too.
 
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