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deeddawg

macrumors G5
Jun 14, 2010
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Can you borrow a 5 or 5S so that you at least have something workable while you wait for inventory to recover?

Or buy a used 5S to tide ya over until demand stabilizes. You'll be out some transaction costs of buying/reselling, but it might be well worth not having to worry about it for a few weeks. Then swoop in on a Black Friday deal for the 6 you want. ;)
 

Ladybug

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Apr 13, 2006
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My 4s is still chugging along and as much as I want to upgrade, I'm just going to be patient and wait it out. It still makes and receives calls and all my messages get through with no issues so I'm not in too much of a rush. I did check them out in the store though. Love the big 6s screen but most likely will just get the 6 for personal use.
 

superlawyer15

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Sep 15, 2014
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OMG, that's so simple an idea.... If *only* someone at Apple had thought of it beforehand... Quick, get your resume to Tim Cook. He clearly need to hire you on before one of the competitors gets ahold of your supply chain brilliance... :D

Just curious - how much real world experience do you have with supply chain or production management?

Hey ******* ..how about contributing something substantive to the conversation instead of just coming on here to criticize others..

...we all know the only reason they didn't stock up on inventory ahead of the launch is because they utilize "just-in-time" supply chain management

..my counter to that is that they should forgo the cost savings incurred by not having to store such a massive quantity of devices given that they would (1) make money immediately off the sales which might offset the storage expense and (2) garner further support from their customer base

next time you choose to open your mouth (or in this case type) at least have an actual response rather than just posing useless rhetorical questions.
 

deeddawg

macrumors G5
Jun 14, 2010
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Hey ******* ..how about contributing something substantive to the conversation instead of just coming on here to criticize others..

You mean like my post #21 in this thread and similar posts on other threads of this nature where I describe just a few of the many challenges such a thought faces? Oh and by the way you really ought to have a look at the forum rules, particularly the Instantly Bannable Offenses section.

Anyway you missed the point of my post; you're armchair quarterbacking deeply complex supply chain decisions without addressing the many issues and tradeoffs involved.

..my counter to that is that they should forgo the cost savings incurred by not having to store such a massive quantity of devices given that they would (1) make money immediately off the sales which might offset the storage expense and (2) garner further support from their customer base

Issues: when is the final hardware ready for production? how much prior version stock is needed on hand to cut over production weeks/months earlier? what if there's a production line issue that only becomes apparent once units are in people's hands? how much more of a problem will leaks become the earlier hardware is finalized and production started.

Benefits... book additional revenue at the end of Q3... which would have been booked in Q4 anyway. No benefit unless cash flow is a concern, which it clearly isn't for Apple. So no benefit there. Garner further support from customer base? Is this *really* a problem for Apple that they need to consider solving? What's your estimate of the number of lost sales where someone buys a non-Apple phone because they couldn't get the latest model right away?

next time you choose to open your mouth (or in this case type) at least have an actual response rather than just posing useless rhetorical questions.

The question I asked you was not rhetorical:
Just curious - how much real world experience do you have with supply chain or production management?
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
15,027
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St. Louis, MO
Been trying to find an AT&T iP6 for my mom and they're not in stock anywhere, in any color or capacity.

Could've sworn 2 weeks ago Apple Stores had all 6 models in stock.
 

Manny72

macrumors member
Jun 8, 2014
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I can't find any AT&T 128 Grey ip6 anywhere here in SoCal either..



I had a perfect iPhone 6 that I exchanged for a plus.. Then returned the plus in hopes for another iPhone 6.. No luck.. Now I just gotta wait till someone gets one..



Oh well..


I can't find a 6+ space gray here in Michigan or Ohio...
 

anonymous82

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Sep 18, 2014
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...how about building more and having a sizable lot before they started selling them.

..would it kill apple to have made 20 million or so units prior to the September announcement

its not like they run the risk of making too many and not selling them

Assuming their factory in China was at full capacity of making 200K phone per day, in order for Apple to have made 20M units prior to their September launch, which means they would have to start production since June, which means their products and OS should have been completed by then? Stop complaining for something you don't know about
 

superlawyer15

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Sep 15, 2014
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Assuming their factory in China was at full capacity of making 200K phone per day, in order for Apple to have made 20M units prior to their September launch, which means they would have to start production since June, which means their products and OS should have been completed by then? Stop complaining for something you don't know about

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/09/17/foxconn-struggles-to-meet-new-iphone-demand/

(1) Apple can produce 540,000 iphone 6/6+ units a day, so it would have only taken them a little over a month to produce 20 million
(2) The software can always be updated OTA, so only the hardware would have had to of been finalized

..."Stop complaining for(sic) something you don't know about"
 

anonymous82

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2014
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Hey ******* ..how about contributing something substantive to the conversation instead of just coming on here to criticize others..

...we all know the only reason they didn't stock up on inventory ahead of the launch is because they utilize "just-in-time" supply chain management

..my counter to that is that they should forgo the cost savings incurred by not having to store such a massive quantity of devices given that they would (1) make money immediately off the sales which might offset the storage expense and (2) garner further support from their customer base

next time you choose to open your mouth (or in this case type) at least have an actual response rather than just posing useless rhetorical questions.

Who are "we" that you refered to? How many units would you expect Apple to make before launch day to meet all the demands, which translated to how far in advance they need to start production. Think about the logistics to transport all those phones from China to all over the world (apparently US and a few countries first). Think about how many freight flights from UPS, Fedex were scheduled to fly in and out of China to other places? Would they change their flight schedule to meet one-time demand? Think about the capacity of the factory in China. Would they all of a sudden hire extra hundreds of thousands worked and train them for a couple of months and fire them later when demand for the new phone comes down? Last but not least was THINK before you shout.

Other manufacturers out there did not selling their phone at least a month after they introduced it. For Apple, it's only 2 week until the first batch reachs its customers.
 

xzcfhxgh

macrumors newbie
Oct 14, 2014
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Yeah, iPhone 6 availability has been a wasteland this past week.
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superlawyer15

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Who are "we" that you refered to? How many units would you expect Apple to make before launch day to meet all the demands, which translated to how far in advance they need to start production. Think about the logistics to transport all those phones from China to all over the world (apparently US and a few countries first). Think about how many freight flights from UPS, Fedex were scheduled to fly in and out of China to other places? Would they change their flight schedule to meet one-time demand? Think about the capacity of the factory in China. Would they all of a sudden hire extra hundreds of thousands worked and train them for a couple of months and fire them later when demand for the new phone comes down? Last but not least was THINK before you shout.

Other manufacturers out there did not selling their phone at least a month after they introduced it. For Apple, it's only 2 week until the first batch reachs its customers.

I'm not going to keep arguing with you..
..you're spewing out non-sense with no citations to back up your propositions, while I've included the sources which support my argument

i.e ...5 minutes ago you said apple only makes 200K phones a day, while the number is actually double that
...you cite to nothing ..i cite to the WSJ
..I dont come here to argue with children
 

random person

macrumors 6502a
Feb 28, 2008
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I am starting to think that they are not refreshing inshore inventory on the website anymore -- either that or there are no phones whatsoever from New York to Maine. Can anyone confirm that Apple is no longer updating their inventory situation online?
 

s15119

macrumors 68000
Nov 20, 2010
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It's always amazing how the average joe always thinks he knows a better way to do things than Apple does. Hey, if you know so much, send your resume' to apple, maybe with your massive amount of expertise they will hire you. Good luck.
 

JoJoCal19

macrumors 65816
Jun 25, 2007
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55
Jacksonville, FL
I just think Apple rushed the 6 Plus out before it was really ready to. Even though they are to be taken with a grain of salt, all of the rumors pointed to delays with the Plus, and the parts for the 6 leaked out well in advance of the Plus from what I saw. I honestly just feel Apple wanted to beat the Note 4 to market and in doing so combined with the much higher than anticipated demand, we are seeing the huge shortages of the Plus. I can't say I blame Apple for treading carefully with their anticpation of the demand for the Plus, I just wish they would have maybe delayed some of the international launches until they can at least partially keep up with demand in the US.
 

superlawyer15

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I just think Apple rushed the 6 Plus out before it was really ready to. Even though they are to be taken with a grain of salt, all of the rumors pointed to delays with the Plus, and the parts for the 6 leaked out well in advance of the Plus from what I saw. I honestly just feel Apple wanted to beat the Note 4 to market and in doing so combined with the much higher than anticipated demand, we are seeing the huge shortages of the Plus. I can't say I blame Apple for treading carefully with their anticpation of the demand for the Plus, I just wish they would have maybe delayed some of the international launches until they can at least partially keep up with demand in the US.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying ...a lot of the early rumors pointed to a 2015 launch for the 6+ ...I dont think they started producing them until a week or so prior to the announcement ..and like you said, that plus the greater than expected demand has resulted in the shortages we are seeing today.

..but at the end of the day, the problem is still with Apple,not only did they fail to properly gauge demand and produce enough units but they also have continued forward with launches in other markets rather than address the shortages here in the US first.

it's responses like those in this thread that give apple fanboys a bad name ...Apple is not infallible ..they screw up just like every other company.
but rather than acknowledge those mistakes, some people like to just deny deny deny and attack the person raising the issue rather than address the merits.
 

doug in albq

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Oct 12, 2007
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Hey Tim Cook, product supply specialist, except for the Sprint versions, which nobody wants, both iPhone 6 & iPhone 6 Plus supplies in the US are almost completely gone (except for those hot-bed locations for Apple product fans: Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi and Arkansas).

SoCal: virtually no stock.
NoCal: virtually no stock.
Greater NE, USA: virtually no stock.
greater Chicago area: virtually no stock.
Seattle: Virtually no sock.
Texas: Virtually no stock.
Denver: virtually no stock.
Arizona: virtually no stock.


(I know Tim is from Alabama, so maybe playing supply-favorites with his hometown region...J/J)
 

12vElectronics

macrumors 68040
Jul 19, 2013
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California
I noticed that as well OP.

A couple of weeks ago I would check for stock on 6 and every Apple store near me had some in stock. Now nothing!
 

bfh123

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 20, 2010
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Hey Tim Cook, product supply specialist, except for the Sprint versions, which nobody wants, both iPhone 6 & iPhone 6 Plus supplies in the US are almost completely gone (except for those hot-bed locations for Apple product fans: Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi and Arkansas).



(I know Tim is from Alabama, so maybe playing supply-favorites with his hometown region...J/J)

I can vouch for the southwest, particularly Alabama, that there's virtually NO stock here either :(
 
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