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Self-Driving Uber Car Kills Pedestrian in Arizona, Accident Could Have Implications for Autonomous Vehicle Testing
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How many non robot cars on the road?
Seems to me the odds are still better for non robot cars.
I’m in favor of autonomous cars and say the sooner the better.
But now is too soon, the public roadways should not be for private tests; as we can see here.
^^^agreed...without enough details its hard to know what happened - but in the case of Tesla - with sufficient distance the radar is able to detect the obstacle (car, human, bicycle, etc.) and stop safely
- see video of brave human tester
It’s facinating given how many people are killed by manned cars every year - just one death from an autonomous car will be a huge strike against autonomous cars in general.
In other words: if you put the collective driving intelligence of all mankind into an autonomous driving system, it still wouldn’t be good enough - even 1 death is too many for people to see it as “equal” to manned cars.
Good old driverless car fantasy. Billions wasted on a vanity project that will never happen. Good luck with that. In the UK our roads have never been worse for driven cars. Let alone driverless. Might be worth getting the basic ecosystem first perhaps. Repair the potholed mess before adding Robbie The Robot Driver eh? I remember the days when we used to drive on the left of the road. In Britain the place is so bad now we drive on what’s left of the road! Meantime it’s another big good luck to the DisneyLand on getting their driverless road network sorted!
There was a human overseeing it.
My city has no Jaywalk laws. Hitting someone when they cross a 4 lane road halfway between greens is 100% the drivers fault. The pedestrian always has the right of way, even they block traffic.
[QUOTE="ignatius345, post: 25906890, member: 985876]
Crosswalks were invented for the convenience of car drivers. A person being outside one doesn't make them "fair game" to be killed.[/QUOTE]
So why is there jaywalking laws?
Crosswalks were invented for the convenience of car drivers. A person being outside one doesn't make them "fair game" to be killed.[/QUOTE]
So why is there jaywalking laws?
The person you responded to was mocking the quote in their post. Somebody was saying that the pedestrian was outside the crosswalk and that told them all they needed to know about the situation, implying it was the pedestrian’s fault. @az431 was making that implication explicit to show how absurd it was.
This is very true. I'd be curious to see deaths or collisions per mile driven for a better comparison.
I don't think you can generalize "driverless cars" yet since there are many competing systems and they're being tuned and developed constantly. Also a little dicey to take a sample this tiny and extrapolate stats from it.
The car can't "see" -- that's the biggest problem with them. They rely on some sensory data, but primarily on photographic information (pixels) and software to try to figure out what those pixels mean.
Getting vehicles to "see" the world accurately, including all of the countless things a vehicle could encounter, is the whole challenge. If it can "see", telling it what to do is straight forward.
Yes, I love how Europe operates. It's also not too bad in Los Angeles. In San Francisco, it sucks. Peds make a nuisance of themselves and slow everyone down to save 2 seconds of their travel time. Like standing in the street instead of on the sidewalk, making right turns difficult and unsafe. The drivers are jerks too, but they don't want to kill anyone. I think it's just cause the SF stereotyped snootiness is real. (And no, I don't drive here. I'm always a ped.)
It's a matter of cooperation. Obey the laws whether you're driving, biking, or walking, and it's better for everyone. But even for selfish people, it's often less risky just for the ped to obey the law, but people don't think about that.
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Wouldn't have happened with AppleCar Pro.... probably would have happened with AppleCar.......
Doubtless people said the same about sailing ships...and steam trains...and aeroplanes...
Can’t remember the last time I came across a galley slave.
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You'd have a great point if there was an equal amount of driver-less cars vs human-driven cars. It's quite a glaring problem in your logic though.
It's illegal to jaywalk, but it's also illegal to hit someone with your car.
Yet i have to keep my 700gm drone at least 90 feet away from people at all times here in Canada. There are good and bad sides to these rules and regulations.
Maybe the other point of testing with a human is to see whether humans will fall asleep at the wheel.
Even so, do you think it’s appropriate for someone else to make a joke or “mockery” of another members post Given the circumstances of this situation? It’s called candor, and some considerably lack it when it involves a sensitive situation as this.
Bullocks, this self driving car should be able to handle all situations, you know...humans are human, they make mistakes, make the wrong decisions, are unpredictable.
I feel sorry for this ladies family, my condolences.