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Ummm that is not true. Have you ever heard of jaywalking? Yeah that’s a crime in NYC, if a cop wants to he can give you a ticket for that. Crosswalks were created for pedestrian safety, and choosing to operate outside of them is to do so at your own risk.

Yeah, about that...
 
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I agree with you. However, I wish more information would be made available to better be able to make an informed opinion. It only stated that the pedestrian was not in a cross walk. Did she jump out quickly in traffic? Was she under the influence of. Oft altering substances? Was she in the middle of a very busy quick moving road with high speeds? Unfortunately I feel many people will jump the quick conclusion that it was automatically the autonomous vehicle at fault. But then maybe it is. I cannot make that conclusion without more information.

Apparently she crossed the road with a bike on the left side of the cross walk. I don’t know if she was right next to cross walk or not. Anyway, it’s strange that all the sonars, lidars and the human monitoring failed to react. Or was the car able to react but due to speed not able avoid the collision. Remains to be seen.
 
Given that there was a human safety driver behind the wheel I am going to guess there was not way a human could have avoided this accident. But, data analysis will show the truth.
 
Those drivers can be taken to court and sent to jail. Who do we send to jail when an autonomous car kills someone?

Actually, that's not entirely true. Obviously if a driver is drunk, speeding or driving recklessly and they cause an accident where there's a fatality they would be criminally charged. Not every car accident where there's a fatality results in someone going to jail. Sometimes bad things just happen that no reasonable person could prevent.
 
So you intend to either kill yourself before you get old and can't get a driver's license anymore or become homebound.
Millions of people everyday drive a human-operated vehicle. Believe it or not, some people actually enjoy driving and find it relaxing. Doesn’t mean they’re going to drive like a jerkoff into a tree. We’ve been responsible enough to drive ourselves for 100 years, what changes once autonomous vehicles become available??
 
Actually, that's not entirely true. Obviously if a driver is drunk, speeding or driving recklessly and they cause an accident where there's a fatality then would be criminally charged. Not every car accident where there's a fatality results in someone going to jail. Sometimes bad things just happen that no reasonable person could prevent.
There is always a consequence of some sort.
 
This just gives Apple a reason to delay the project for another 5+ years. If it ever comes dripping out that infinite pipeline at all...
that would be great, to finally focus again on their core business. Apple is trying to do everything, but almost nothing properly..
 
Maybe she shouldn’t have been crossing outside of a crosswalk area... but also the car and driver should have seen her

seeing her and being able to stop when someone walks out in front of your car are not the same thing. There is no proof YET that this was an avoidable accident that happened due to self driving being a failure
 
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I am very sorry for the lady who passed away. There was a human safety driver behind the wheel. If the human and the car didn't see her, then there was no way a human alone would have any chance of seeing her.. People need to be smart and aware of their surroundings. You are responsive for keeping yourself alive.
 
Millions of people everyday drive a human-operated vehicle. Believe it or not, some people actually enjoy driving and find it relaxing. Doesn’t mean they’re going to drive like a jerkoff into a tree. We’ve been responsible enough to drive ourselves for 100 years, what changes once autonomous vehicles become available??

Let me fix that for you... We've been IRresponsible enough to kill 30,000 people a year in the US alone with manually driven vehicles.
 
Meanwhile (in the US only) 15 pedestrians will be killed today by negligent human drives. 15 more will die tomorrow, 15 died yesterday and 15 die everyday. Why does no one care about that?
People do care about it, but you worry about the biggest problems first. There are 10s of autonomous vehicles and 10s of millions of human driven vehicles. The death rate from autonomous “test” vehicles is much, much higher than human driven vehicles right now.
 
Pah! Just register your car as a gun and insist on your 2nd amendment rights. If you can kill someone with it, it’s a weapon and should be legal.
 
People do care about it, but you worry about the biggest problems first. There are 10s of autonomous vehicles and 10s of millions of human driven vehicles. The death rate from autonomous “test” vehicles is much, much higher than human driven vehicles right now.

Citation needed.
 
Doubtless people said the same about sailing ships...and steam trains...and aeroplanes...
None of those technologies had the potential (and noted explicit goal) to replace *millions* of workers for robots, headed up by the three top worldwide companies.

This “horse and buggy* trope is getting old. Modern AI is simply not comparable to the service jobs that were available in the past. Where do you people expect workers to go in a world that has every sector racing to automate workers out of business?

A steel plant that used to require 1400 workers now requires 14 in the control room. Do you people see ANY sector that is suddenly going to have openings to fill anywhere close to the to the number of people thrown out of work? Are there millions of Walmarts openinging up all of a sudden?

Not to mention, the flood of “looking for any work at all” workers is going to drive down wage pressures even further than the last 40 years of neoliberal market shaping has.

Let’s stop pretending we’re looking at a new industrial revolution. This is the industrial revolution stepped up multiple orders of magnitudes. White-collar work is next on the chopping block so all you office workers are on notice as well.
 
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This was inevitable. Pedestrian collisions happen daily. Investigate this and make changes, but hopefully this doesn’t set the technology back too far.
Hopefully it sets Uber back as far as possible. Yeah, these things can happen to anyone, but for some reason they seem to keep happening to Uber. Could it have something to do with that company’s cavalier attitude toward regulations and consequences?

Asking for forgiveness rather than permission sounds like a great model until you’re asking forgiveness from a grieving family.
 
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