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An autonomous test vehicle being tested by Uber struck and killed a woman in Tempe, Arizona late Sunday night, marking what appears to be the first pedestrian killed by an autonomous vehicle, reports The New York Times.

The Uber vehicle in question was in an autonomous driving mode with a human safety driver at the wheel, and the woman who was struck was crossing the street outside of a crosswalk, according to local police. No other details on the accident are available at this time.

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One of Apple's autonomous test vehicles​

Uber is cooperating with Tempe police and has suspended all of its self-driving vehicle tests in Tempe, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, and Toronto at the current time. Uber's autonomous vehicles have previously been involved in collisions, as have vehicles from other companies like Tesla, but this is the first pedestrian-related accident that has resulted in a fatality.

This incident will likely have wide-ranging implications for all companies who are testing autonomous vehicles, including Apple, and it could potentially result in more oversight and regulation.

Apple has been testing its autonomous vehicles on public roads in California near its Cupertino headquarters since last year. Apple vehicles, which include a series of Lexus RX450h SUVs equipped with a host of sensors and cameras, have not been involved in any known accidents to date.

To date, most autonomous vehicles in California and Arizona have been using safety drivers behind the wheel who are meant to take over in the event of an emergency, but California in February lifted that rule.

Starting on April 2, companies in California that are testing self-driving vehicles will be able to deploy cars that do not have a driver behind the wheel. Arizona also allows driverless cars to be tested in the state, and Waymo has been testing autonomous driverless minivans in Arizona since November.

Update: Tempe police chief Sylvia Moir told the San Francisco Chronicle that based on a preliminary investigation, it does not appear Uber is at fault in the accident. "It's very clear it would have been difficult to avoid this collision in any kind of mode (autonomous or human-driven) based on how she came from the shadows right into the roadway," she said. She also clarified that the Uber vehicle did not make an attempt to brake.

Moir did say, however, that she will not rule out the potential to file charges against the back-up driver in the vehicle. Tempe police will work with investigators from the National Transportation Safety Board and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to further investigate the accident.

Article Link: Self-Driving Uber Car Kills Pedestrian in Arizona, Accident Could Have Implications for Autonomous Vehicle Testing
 
Meanwhile 15 pedestrians will be killed today by negligent human drives. 15 more will die tomorrow and 15 died yesterday and 15 die everyday. Why does no one care about that?

There are roughly 300 million cars registered in the US and maybe 100 of the are driverless vehicles, so your conclusion that the rates of pedestrian deaths are the same for both is illogical and absurd. That’s why no one cares.
 
That’s an unfortunate situation and even though there is not enough details regarding the accident currently, The accident will be reconstructed and will find out exactly what happened. Uber and the police can at least provide an explanation of what occurred exactly to the victims family.
 
Very unfortunate. Self-driving cars have such a huge promise, so hopefully this doesn't cause a huge backlash against them. Unfortunately accidents happen and self-driving is no different than human driven. But someone lost their life, so this incident needs to be taken seriously.
 
Meanwhile 15 pedestrians were killed today by negligent human drives. 15 more will die tomorrow and 15 died yesterday and 15 die everyday. Why does no one care about that?
Amen to that. The police in my city let drivers speed through neighborhoods and run right through red lights. And NYC is possibly the most heavily pedestrian-oriented city in America. I can't wait for a new era where cars behave according to the rules.
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"Outside the crosswalk"

That tells me a lot right there, will wait for more details.
Maybe she shouldn’t have been crossing outside of a crosswalk area... but also the car and driver should have seen her

Crosswalks were invented for the convenience of car drivers. A person being outside one doesn't make them "fair game" to be killed.
 
This just gives Apple a reason to delay the project for another 5+ years. If it ever comes dripping out that infinite pipeline at all...
 
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Artificial intelligence interacting with unpredictable human beings...what could go wrong. I read an article about how pedestrian deaths were on the rise all around the country, possibly because of the increase in wearable devices. Also noted was the factoid that pedestrian deaths were rising fastest in those states who have legalized pot. So I guess if you’re high on weed AND have your nose in your OLED screen while listening to Elton John with noise canceling headphones you maybe shouldn’t walk out into the middle of the street when a self driving car is bearing down on you.
 
Maybe she shouldn’t have been crossing outside of a crosswalk area... but also the car and driver should have seen her
I agree with you. However, I wish more information would be made available to better be able to make an informed opinion. It only stated that the pedestrian was not in a cross walk. Did she jump out quickly in traffic? Was she under the influence of. Oft altering substances? Was she in the middle of a very busy quick moving road with high speeds? Unfortunately I feel many people will jump the quick conclusion that it was automatically the autonomous vehicle at fault. But then maybe it is. I cannot make that conclusion without more information.
 
"Outside the crosswalk"

That tells me a lot right there, will wait for more details.

This lady was 200% dedicated to science. Not only because of being run over by an autonomous car (which would help the industry), but also because she supported Darwin's theory by crossing outside of a crosswalk.
Somebody DIED. Show some respect and take your pithy comments somewhere else.
 
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