self-signed applet: "always trust" not recognized/remembered on Mac 10.7

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by Allasso, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. Allasso macrumors newbie

    Feb 22, 2012
    (This question has been posted on some Java and Mac forums beginning 3 days ago, but I have not received any helpful information to date.)


    I have developed a website archive which is privately distributed as a stand alone archive to be run locally on the user's computer (no server). It uses Lucene search engine (Java) to search the archive; the search API/applet is packaged in a jar file and the jarfile/applet is self-signed.

    In order to do the search, a self-signed certificate is created for the search applet, since the files in the archive it is searching are on the user's hard drive. After the initial installation of the archive, and upon the first search initiated, the security window pops up asking the user permission for the user to run the applet.

    The problem lies here:

    With Windows and all versions of Mac OS X prior to 10.7 (Lion), the user can check "always trust" (or similar), and from then on, subsequent searches are carried out without prompting the user to accept the certificate (even after restarting the browser application)

    However, on Lion, the user can run the applet only once, and will continue to get a security prompt on every search afterwards, even though "always trust" is checked.

    This behaviour occurs whether using Firefox or Safari, so it is apparent this is System related, not a browser issue.

    I attempted to manually import the certificate both into the Keychain Access, and also into Authorities under Firefox's certificate manager (see This however was not successful.

    Some possibilities I have considered are:

    There is no publisher name for a self-signed cert. On previous versions of OS X, the security window states the signer's name, and the option to view the certificate. The user can check "Always trust these certificates". On Lion, the security window only states the publisher's name, which comes up as "UNKNOWN". The analogous "always" checkbox states, "Always trust content from this publisher". So it appears pre-Lion is allowing the option to always trust the particular certificate, whereas Lion is allowing the option to always trust the publisher.

    Is there a way to create a publisher name when self-signing?

    As far as importing the certificate, could it be that because the archive is local (url = file://) that it won't recognize it? Does anyone know why this doesn't work?

    Does anyone know what is happening here, or can suggest a work-around for this (besides paying for a "trusted" CA). Everything worked just hunky-dory -- until Lion...

    It seems to me the user should have the option of choosing whether to trust a certificate or not. Does one need to have Verisign's stamp of approval to trust someone who he's known and worked with for 20 years?

    This in my opinion seems to be a bug in Lion; that is, a user can choose one time to accept a certificate, but there is no option to always accept it in the future.

    Thank you kindly,

    Allasso Travesser
  2. Allasso thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 22, 2012
    I have observed that if I attempt to load the applet from a webserver, a different security prompt appears, giving the option to always accept content from the particular site, or if I go into advanced options, can choose to always accept content with the same signature. When I do this, it behaves as desired.

    So it appears the problem only reveals itself when the applet is located on the local filesystem. I do not know why such a distinction should be made.


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