Sell me on the apple watch

[AFEPPL]

As it stands today, the AW watch really does not fulfil any real purpose.
The apps are poor and very slow, the functionality is limited, you can't pair to more than one device, the battery life sucks and its just fiddly. I will state for the record i returned mine within a week.

 

[Samh92]

My other half brought me one for a gift, I was considering one for a while and was humming and ahhhing if I should get it. Now one problem for me, not sure if other people have the same issue is I can't really wear a watch at work as I work in the health care and there's a below the elbow rules or wearing watches/rings ect. Also my job involves a lot of cleaning as well, I don't particularly would want to be wearing my watch. With that being said just because I don't wear it at work doesn't mean I don't use it, literally as soon as I finish its straight on my wrist. Sure it's not as useful to me as to some others but I like how the watch works and couldn't see myself without it now.

I guess it's all personal preference.

 

[jasie02]

They are almost impossible to compare. The Apple Watch is a wrist mounted computer gadget and the others are luxury timepieces. I also think they appeal to very different people.

Why, they all go on the wrist, and normal people wear one watch at a time?
Just like a car, people say you can't compare classic car with high tech SUV, well, for normal people looking for one car, and only one car, choose between buying beautiful looking but very minimum function classic car and everything loaded any tech you could name it has it SUV could go anywhere, are you saying we can't compare them, if one only interesting to buy one car and only one car?

We really could not compare them?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Why, they all go on the wrist, and normal people wear one watch at a time?
Just like a car, people say you can't compare classic car with high tech SUV, well, for normal people looking for one car, and only one car, choose between buying beautiful looking but very minimum function classic car and everything loaded any tech you could name it has it SUV could go anywhere, are you saying we can't compare them, if one only interesting to buy one car and only one car?

We really could not compare them?

Because one is a luxury mechanical wristwatch designed to be admired for its finish and engineering beauty, history and investment value and the other is a mini wrist mounted iPhone that is designed to be thrown away every 2 years. It's a wrist wearable gadget.

They both tell the time and they are both worn on the wrist but I really don't understand how the Apple watch suddenly out qualifies thousands of other wristwatches throughout history that have technically had more features than watches in the luxury market. You can buy a black plastic Casio that has a stopwatch, an alarm, a world clock, a light and a 24 hour function for less than £20, but comparisons between these and a Rolex Submariner would have many people screwing their faces up in utter bewilderment. Beyond being worn on the wrist they are not even comparable in a serious sense.

Functionality is a subjective need when it comes to watches.

 

[jasie02]

Because one is a luxury mechanical wristwatch designed to be admired for its finish and engineering beauty, history and investment value and the other is a mini wrist mounted iPhone that is designed to be thrown away every 2 years. It's a wrist wearable gadget.

They both tell the time and they are both worn on the wrist but I really don't understand how the Apple watch suddenly out qualifies thousands of other wristwatches throughout history that have technically had more features than watches in the luxury market. You can buy a black plastic Casio that has a stopwatch, an alarm, a world clock, a light and a 24 hour function for less than £20, but comparisons between these and a Rolex Submariner would have many people screwing their faces up in utter bewilderment. Beyond being worn on the wrist they are not even comparable in a serious sense.

Functionality is a subjective need when it comes to watches.

I have both, so I could not compare them?
Some people like $30 watch, some people like $20,000 Rolex. And they can't compare them, because price different?

Watch is watch is watch is watch. It quack like a duck, walk like a duck, it is a duck, and I could not compare expensive duck with cheap duck?

After I compared $30 Casio, I might like it better than $20,000 Rolex, in term of how useful it is for me, so not sure why anyone could not compare any watch with any watch?
Sometime $$$ is not everything for some people.

 

[BarracksSi]

Guess which of these watches I wear the most:
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(hint: it's not my wife's hand-me-down Rolex)

Just reposting my collection from earlier to illustrate how my opinion of the AW and other watches is not based on ignorance.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I have both, so I could not compare them?
Some people like $30 watch, some people like $20,000 Rolex. And they can't compare them, because price different?

Watch is watch is watch is watch. It quack like a duck, walk like a duck, it is a duck, and I could not compare expensive duck with cheap duck?

After I compared $30 Casio, I might like it better than $20,000 Rolex, in term of how useful it is for me, so not sure why anyone could not compare any watch with any watch?
Sometime $$$ is not everything for some people.

Price isn't the comparison, the difference is what they are is. One is a watch and the other is a wrist gadget. I couldn't care less what they cost.

 

[jasie02]

Price isn't the comparison, the difference is what they are is. One is a watch and the other is a wrist gadget. I couldn't care less what they cost.

You don't get it, why are you quoting anyone to tell them they "COULD NOT" compare watch, not could not compare with "WATCH"?
Maybe there is law in UK does not allow compare watches, which I am not aware?

I could compared with anything I like it fit my need, just don't understand you keep insist I could not compare them?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You don't get it, why are you quoting anyone to tell them they "COULD NOT" compare watch, not could not compare with "WATCH"?
Maybe there is law in UK does not allow compare watches, which I am not aware?

I could compared with anything I like it fit my need, just don't understand you keep insist I could not compare them?

I suggest a deep breath and perhaps a new outlook. I gave my opinion and don't agree with you that an Apple Watch can be seriously compared to the luxury watch market without laughing. You can compare what you like mate. Try and calm down

 

[jasie02]

I suggest a deep breath and perhaps a new outlook. I gave my opinion and don't agree with you that an Apple Watch can be seriously compared to the luxury watch market without laughing. You can compare what you like mate. Try and calm down

I am always calm with people are focusing on discuss subject of thread, until you start telling people what they could or could not do.
Your focus is on what I should not do, not on the subject of this thread "Sell me on the apple watch" at all.

You certainly does not have to quote me at all, and tell me what I should not do, you could make your point without quoting me, unless your intention is about "TELLING ME" I could not do this, other than anything related to subject of this thread.
Don't quote people, tell them they could not say thing or do thing, and expect anyone to be clam and not push back to you.

 

[Ulenspiegel]

The main idea is that to some of us the classical watches an AW are apples and oranges. One is a masterpiece, the other is a gadget that shows time.
It does not mean that the AW is not ideal partner for many who find joy wearing and using it.

 

[jasie02]

Before my AW, I will alternating between Casio, Tissot t-touch, and Omega, some rare occasion with old Rolex, but now they all are in drawer have not seen sunlight for months.
I have zero desire now to wear other watch other than AW, because everytime I wear other watch, and carry my AW, I end up swap them with AW in less than 30min. There are just too much thing missing to make my life easier compared with smart watch.
And I am not along, I know some people feel the same. So if they are so different, why are all other watches is been replaced by AW in daily use?
Isn't watch for most people are for wearing daily not store in drawer as valuable keep?
And if I wear my AW daily, why can't I compare with other more expensive watch, as a "watch" for daily use?

 

[wmhjr]

I have both, so I could not compare them?
Some people like $30 watch, some people like $20,000 Rolex. And they can't compare them, because price different?

Watch is watch is watch is watch. It quack like a duck, walk like a duck, it is a duck, and I could not compare expensive duck with cheap duck?

After I compared $30 Casio, I might like it better than $20,000 Rolex, in term of how useful it is for me, so not sure why anyone could not compare any watch with any watch?
Sometime $$$ is not everything for some people.

You can compare anything you want. You can compare an Apple Watch to a Boeing 767, or to Harvard University, or to a Cruise Ship. You can compare it to your favorite actor. Nobody is telling you you're not "allowed" to compare them. Nobody will arrest you. At least not in the US - not sure where you live.

The point is that by insisting that it's a "normal comparison" you're frankly just either deliberately obtuse, you're trying to pick a fight, or you're just so sold on Apple products that you can't see the forest for the trees.

I don't own a $20K Rolex, and frankly there are other "luxury watches" that I would prefer. However I can say this with authority. A true "Luxury Watch" is as much "jewelry" as it is a timepiece. Come back to me in 10 years with each, and tell me exactly what that Apple watch is worth. I've got two old iPads sitting around that have not been used for years, and have no value. The Apple watch will be no different - and IMHO probably MORE prone to such devaluation.

That does not make it a bad product. It could be an awesome product. So was Velcro. And Zip Ties.

An authentic Rolex, TWC, Baume & Mercier, Breitling, Girard Perregaux or Glashutte? Me thinks that just maybe they will retain value long after an Apple watch has been dropped in the recycling bin. That does not make either "better". They are different. Which is EXACTLY the point that somebody made in why it's pretty darned crazy to even try to compare them.
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Why, they all go on the wrist, and normal people wear one watch at a time?
Just like a car, people say you can't compare classic car with high tech SUV, well, for normal people looking for one car, and only one car, choose between buying beautiful looking but very minimum function classic car and everything loaded any tech you could name it has it SUV could go anywhere, are you saying we can't compare them, if one only interesting to buy one car and only one car?

We really could not compare them?

Yes, you could not compare them. Unless you're an idiot. Because (as somebody who owns a collectable car) any sane person would comprehend that a "classic car" is a "collectable". A new SUV is a new transportation product. Once a car becomes a "Classic" or "collectable" they "generally" retain their value or increase their value (obviously, economy dependent). Don't believe me? Take a look at Grundy, Heacock, Hagerty or similar Agreed Value Classic/Collector Car Insurance. It has an automatic annual agreed value increase for this very reason. Not a "Premium" increase. An increase on the estimated value of your collector car. It's typically around 2.5% annually. Meaning that if your collector car is valued at $100K this year, next year the book value that the insurance company will use will be $102,500 - without you doing anything at all. Your new SUV has an automatic depreciation. Classic/Collector insurance has limitations on how the vehicle can be used, and frankly - you have to prove you have another vehicle as a "daily driver" because you are not covered by insurance if you attempt to use your Classic/Collectable for routine purposes. This is not my opinion. It is fact. You can verify for yourself easily by just taking a look at their classic agreed value web sites. Oh, and "Most" Classic policies require that you are at least 25 yrs old.

If somebody can only purchase a single car, and requires that car for transportation, then the ONLY way they would consider a true "classic" is if they were so brain damaged that they should not be able to get a drivers license.

I usually lurk on this forum - have for years - with the primary purpose of keeping current and when necessary researching an issue with one of my (many) Apple products. But this thread and the comments here are just beyond nuts.

I think I'm going to go compare my house to a bus next.

 

[jasie02]

You can compare anything you want. You can compare an Apple Watch to a Boeing 767, or to Harvard University, or to a Cruise Ship. You can compare it to your favorite actor. Nobody is telling you you're not "allowed" to compare them. Nobody will arrest you. At least not in the US - not sure where you live.

The point is that by insisting that it's a "normal comparison" you're frankly just either deliberately obtuse, you're trying to pick a fight, or you're just so sold on Apple products that you can't see the forest for the trees.

I don't own a $20K Rolex, and frankly there are other "luxury watches" that I would prefer. However I can say this with authority. A true "Luxury Watch" is as much "jewelry" as it is a timepiece. Come back to me in 10 years with each, and tell me exactly what that Apple watch is worth. I've got two old iPads sitting around that have not been used for years, and have no value. The Apple watch will be no different - and IMHO probably MORE prone to such devaluation.

That does not make it a bad product. It could be an awesome product. So was Velcro. And Zip Ties.

An authentic Rolex, TWC, Baume & Mercier, Breitling, Girard Perregaux or Glashutte? Me thinks that just maybe they will retain value long after an Apple watch has been dropped in the recycling bin. That does not make either "better". They are different. Which is EXACTLY the point that somebody made in why it's pretty darned crazy to even try to compare them.
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Yes, you could not compare them. Unless you're an idiot. Because (as somebody who owns a collectable car) any sane person would comprehend that a "classic car" is a "collectable". A new SUV is a new transportation product. Once a car becomes a "Classic" or "collectable" they "generally" retain their value or increase their value (obviously, economy dependent). Don't believe me? Take a look at Grundy, Heacock, Hagerty or similar Agreed Value Classic/Collector Car Insurance. It has an automatic annual agreed value increase for this very reason. Not a "Premium" increase. An increase on the estimated value of your collector car. It's typically around 2.5% annually. Meaning that if your collector car is valued at $100K this year, next year the book value that the insurance company will use will be $102,500 - without you doing anything at all. Your new SUV has an automatic depreciation. Classic/Collector insurance has limitations on how the vehicle can be used, and frankly - you have to prove you have another vehicle as a "daily driver" because you are not covered by insurance if you attempt to use your Classic/Collectable for routine purposes. This is not my opinion. It is fact. You can verify for yourself easily by just taking a look at their classic agreed value web sites. Oh, and "Most" Classic policies require that you are at least 25 yrs old.

If somebody can only purchase a single car, and requires that car for transportation, then the ONLY way they would consider a true "classic" is if they were so brain damaged that they should not be able to get a drivers license.

I usually lurk on this forum - have for years - with the primary purpose of keeping current and when necessary researching an issue with one of my (many) Apple products. But this thread and the comments here are just beyond nuts.

I think I'm going to go compare my house to a bus next.

???? I don't understand, so I could not compare watch with watch, or car with car?

Need more explaination. All of your explaination does not make sense, why I could not compare watch with watch, or car with car?

One have to be crazy or idiot or simply stupid to compare with house and bus.
Does not make sense at all, house and bus???

 

[wmhjr]

If you still need more explanation you will never have the capacity to comprehend.

Have fun with whatever.

 

[jasie02]

If you still need more explanation you will never have the capacity to comprehend.

Have fun with whatever.

House and bus, just curious, where is that come from?
I could get 100 people together, and not sure they could come up with genius idea you have. You must have head/capacity people admired larger than moon to come up with such great idea, compare house and bus.