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Selling MBP on Craigslist, buyer is willing to paypal me money if I ship it. Sketchy?
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Again, not true. If a scammer has someone's login, they can easily change the address on file. Then when owner sees the charge, Paypal will see the recent address change and immediately recover funds. Which will almost always happen prior to a check being sent out or a back transfer completing. Just because you see the money cleared into your Paypal balance does not mean it's untouchable and yours forever.
If your going to use craigslist, take cash only and meet somewhere safe.
If the "buyer" sends money via Western Union, there is no way the "buyer" can get the money back. However, no scammer is stupid enough to send money via Western Union since they know full well once you give the money to Western Union you cannot get it back.
I don't see how that's not true. A verified address needs to be the billing address on the credit card
"How a Buyer Can Confirm an Address
Inform your buyer on how to confirm his or her address, by communicating the following options:
Add a credit card to your PayPal account. PayPal will confirm the credit card billing address (i.e., the address where you receive your credit card statement)."
Unless the stolen card has its billing address changed, I don't see how a thief can so easily change the address.
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the person who tried to scam me last wk end, had verified paypal.. despite that address showing up as nothing more than a filed on google maps!
I also have the usual safeguards on my account, like block buyers with strike, block ppl with no paypal and block liters without verified address..
it appears the scammers where not amateurs as they even forged e-mails to me trying to dupe me into thinking payment had been made
They could of possibly taken out a creditcard online, used it, then coupled it to a paypal account, before they then went on to make several high profile and costly bids
Paypal and ebay where very interested in this case.. but where not prepared to give further details or share info when i asked re specific details.. which i suppose is fair enough
the person who tried to scam me last wk end, had verified paypal.. despite that address showing up as nothing more than a filed on google maps!
I also have the usual safeguards on my account, like block buyers with strike, block ppl with no paypal and block liters without verified address..
it appears the scammers where not amateurs as they even forged e-mails to me trying to dupe me into thinking payment had been made
They could of possibly taken out a creditcard online, used it, then coupled it to a paypal account, before they then went on to make several high profile and costly bids
Paypal and ebay where very interested in this case.. but where not prepared to give further details or share info when i asked re specific details.. which i suppose is fair enough
There's no denying that there are very talented scammers out there who can find the smallest of loopholes. With that being said, millions of people use paypal and, yes, you can be scammed; however, if you take the likely precautions and play it smart with feedback from ebay, you will more than likely be OK. People on here make it seem like paypal is the oldwest where your goods are as good as stolen once it leaves your hand.
that may make you feel good when you are putting up the item for sale, but if you use paypal it is no guarantee. buyer could file a snad and he'd win. so the returns accepted thing means absolutely nothing.
Dont do it! its a scam!
He'll paypal you the money, you'll ship it to him, he'll say he never got it and open a claim with paypal and they'll refund him the money.
DONT DO IT!
He'll paypal you the money, you'll ship it to him, he'll say he never got it and open a claim with paypal and they'll refund him the money.
DONT DO IT!
Very true. Regardless of what your ebay sale says, it's irrelevant to the terms and conditions that paypal applies. Even if your page says "absolutely no returns", you do not have the power to make such claims according to the ToS of ebay/paypal.
Definitely never use PP when using craigs.
It's pretty easy to make yourself safe from people who steal other people's PayPal accounts. First, only ship to PayPal confirmed addresses.
Second, if the buyer seems sketchy just wait a few days before shipping it out. Chances are good within 3 days a stolen PayPal account will have already submitted a claim.
Third, if they try to tell you about PayPal as if you didn't know what it was: they're a scammer.
Second, if the buyer seems sketchy just wait a few days before shipping it out. Chances are good within 3 days a stolen PayPal account will have already submitted a claim.
Third, if they try to tell you about PayPal as if you didn't know what it was: they're a scammer.
I never ship to unconfirmed addresses. You can contact Paypal as well to confirm if an address is confirmed. I remember back in the day, you would have to call paypal via a LAN line to get verified. Now it is through small deposits/withdrawals on ones' bank account.
TO the guy who got hosed on a laptop, did you have signature confirmation? I won a case against some dirt bag buyer. It was over some XBOX 360 controller, lol. Guy said he never got it. I emailed paypal that I am pissed because I have been here 10 years w/ no problems ever, and this dirt bag just signed up for ebay a few weeks prior and already has problems.
They asked me to fax/email a copy of the USPS receipt. Now I get DC ON ALL my sales, and insurance/signature confirmation on certain items.
Perhaps I am lucky, but I have 340+ 100% feedback (with like 40 feedback waiting to be left back for me) and really haven't had any problems. I have sold stuff over $1000 on there, but not anything super expensive.
TO the guy who got hosed on a laptop, did you have signature confirmation? I won a case against some dirt bag buyer. It was over some XBOX 360 controller, lol. Guy said he never got it. I emailed paypal that I am pissed because I have been here 10 years w/ no problems ever, and this dirt bag just signed up for ebay a few weeks prior and already has problems.
They asked me to fax/email a copy of the USPS receipt. Now I get DC ON ALL my sales, and insurance/signature confirmation on certain items.
Perhaps I am lucky, but I have 340+ 100% feedback (with like 40 feedback waiting to be left back for me) and really haven't had any problems. I have sold stuff over $1000 on there, but not anything super expensive.
Are you sure - they could reverse a payment, if I recall the TOS correctly. Alternatively, they could initiate a transfer from your account in the amount due.
Paypal is officially a bunch of incompetent ****ing idiots!
I don't recommend you to use paypal this is a fraudulent company they don't care about you.
Last month I have lost $1900 in a transaction with paypal.
Always use secure payments like western union, moneygram, wire transfer/bank transfer, all of tease are 10000000 times better than paypal (+ you don't have to pay the paypal huge fees)
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
http://www.screw-paypal.com/
http://paypalsucks.org/
http://www.paypalsucks.net/
http://www.paypalwarning.com/
http://www.aboutpaypal.org/
I don't recommend you to use paypal this is a fraudulent company they don't care about you.
Last month I have lost $1900 in a transaction with paypal.
Always use secure payments like western union, moneygram, wire transfer/bank transfer, all of tease are 10000000 times better than paypal (+ you don't have to pay the paypal huge fees)
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
http://www.screw-paypal.com/
http://paypalsucks.org/
http://www.paypalsucks.net/
http://www.paypalwarning.com/
http://www.aboutpaypal.org/
Lots of good points here and hopefully we've all learned that the only way to deal with Craigslist is with cash.
Another point I wanted to make is that if the scammer is a really sophisticated one, the PayPal link he provides could redirect you to a fraudulent PayPal website, where he'll have lots of your personal information with which to commit ID theft. Never, ever click on a link provided by someone else that has you enter personal information and/or verify log in details.
Another point I wanted to make is that if the scammer is a really sophisticated one, the PayPal link he provides could redirect you to a fraudulent PayPal website, where he'll have lots of your personal information with which to commit ID theft. Never, ever click on a link provided by someone else that has you enter personal information and/or verify log in details.
Craigslist is a good place to deal AS long as your dealing in person. Although people are usually looking for a bargain and not what the product is actually worth. Im not sure why anyone would ever think about shipping their item to a person they have never met before. For the person who got screwed through eBay, iv had nothing but good things with eBay im sorry to hear that man.
I think someone already said this, but I'm saying it again for emphasis:
Paypal on Craigslist is ALWAYS A SCAM. So is nearly every email asking you to ship it for any reason. Also, nearly any email that simply states, "is the item still for sale?" is usually a bait for a scam as well. If you are going to sell on Craigslist, deal in cash only and local pickup in a public location, such as a mall or outside a well-lit store. Make sure they get out of their car. Some of these details might not apply to your transaction, but are good rules of thumb anyways for other future sales.
Paypal on Craigslist is ALWAYS A SCAM. So is nearly every email asking you to ship it for any reason. Also, nearly any email that simply states, "is the item still for sale?" is usually a bait for a scam as well. If you are going to sell on Craigslist, deal in cash only and local pickup in a public location, such as a mall or outside a well-lit store. Make sure they get out of their car. Some of these details might not apply to your transaction, but are good rules of thumb anyways for other future sales.
You are tempted by the money, but there is a good chance you'll lose your machine and get nothing.
This is just another:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1016390
This is just another:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1016390
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