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I just looked in my Health app and it says over the past week the range for my blood oxygen was 93-99%. If it was really accurate and I have no health issues shouldn’t it be closer to 99% all the time?
Not really, Sp02 varies quite a lot due to things like exercise, alcohol consumption, altitude, sleeping and sleep phase. One SHOULD be normally close to 100%, MOST of the time, but not ALL the time.

I think your ranges are more likely accurate vs. margin of error inaccurate.
 
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same here. The ban was for S9 and Ultra 2 specifically starting some day in Jan 2024, every model sold before that date was NOT impacted
Actually I bought my S9 at a NY Target on 3/27/24, and activated it / paired it with a US Verizon iPhone, and I have the O2 sensor active. From my reading back then, and as someone else said here, the LW/A being present in the model # disables the O2 sensor in software. If no LW/A present in the model #, then the O2 sensor works.
(I checked the S9 iWatch box model # at the Target store before buying it!)
I believe if you can find a retailer even today, that has OLD S9 stock (S9 models without the LW/A), you could buy them and activate them today, and get the functional O2 sensor.
Apple could not sell watches with functional O2 sensors to the US public, online or via their stores, nor supply the US retailers with *new* stock of watches with functional O2 sensors as of the ban date.
 
US Specs say Blood Oxygen app is missing not sensor. Also the Maximo patent expires in 2028. But I still agree with others that Apple should have paid to offer the feature
👍. Y’all cannot setup a non American Apple Watch with cellular if you want blood oxygen. It may be disappointing if y’all want stainless steel or the black Apple Watch Ultra 2 with this feature, and use cellular. It will remain a GPS only and Wi-Fi /bluetooth only brick 🧱 until then.
 
Actually I bought my S9 at a NY Target on 3/27/24, and activated it / paired it with a US Verizon iPhone, and I have the O2 sensor active. From my reading back then, and as someone else said here, the LW/A being present in the model # disables the O2 sensor in software. If no LW/A present in the model #, then the O2 sensor works.
(I checked the S9 iWatch box model # at the Target store before buying it!)
I believe if you can find a retailer even today, that has OLD S9 stock (S9 models without the LW/A), you could buy them and activate them today, and get the functional O2 sensor.
Apple could not sell watches with functional O2 sensors to the US public, online or via their stores, nor supply the US retailers with *new* stock of watches with functional O2 sensors as of the ban date.
Of course, even second hand Apple Watch Ultra 2 and series 9s that are from launch day until new years still have blood oxygen. You can also find listings of earlier stock offerings for new Apple Watch series 9 and natural titanium Apple Watch Ultra 2 models in third party retailers like Walmart, which may go on sale soon.
Exceptions to this rule include if you get a Hermes Apple Watch as they use new stock all the time and select the band in the store.
 
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Agree. I will not buy a new Apple Watch until this sensor is replaced. Right now my 2023 Ultra 2 has more functionality than any of these new watches. I get the Sleep Apnea via software, and I get the Blood Ox.

I will just buy a new Titanium Milanese Band.
Please identify the "software" that monitors possible sleep apnea.
I thought of going from AW8C and downgrading from SS to aluminum jet black until I read that thread here that is a good warning (comparing jet black issues from a previous iP) although I rarely put my AW at risk.
However, the loss of medical data is the last straw for me. I am not young and need more medical sensors not less.
 
Please identify the "software" that monitors possible sleep apnea.
I thought of going from AW8C and downgrading from SS to aluminum jet black until I read that thread here that is a good warning (comparing jet black issues from a previous iP) although I rarely put my AW at risk.
However, the loss of medical data is the last straw for me. I am not young and need more medical sensors not less.
Apple said they expect FDA clearance (for sleep apnea) later this month, it'll be part of a watchOS update ...
 
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Good check on lung and heart functioning — during exercise, regular activities, and for general health.

As we age, those become even more important. In an era of resurgent COVID, oxygen levels are useful. Blood oxygen monitoring is also key to sleep apnea detection which affects people of all ages.

The Watch via the iPhone also provides a VO2 Max measure which gives feedback on your cardio fitness — and whether you are pushing yourself sufficiently while exercising.



In fact, medical researchers have confirmed that it is quite accurate. The problem from my reading of the research is that it slightly under-states oxygen levels at high levels (mid-to-upper 90s) while overstating it at lower levels (high 80s and low 90s). That is the exact opposite of what one would want, but it still provides a relatively close and fairly useful gauge.

See, e.g.,

“Accuracy of the Apple Watch Oxygen Saturation Measurement in Adults: A Systematic Review”​




“Study finds Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor is as reliable as ‘medical-grade device’”​

I am a DVT/PE patient who survived three saddle pulmonary emboli (quite often fatal) that went to my lungs.
I have long had a personal pulse/oximeter and always note such numbers when I see a physician. I do not find BO readings from my personal AW8C to be far afield.
 
👍. Y’all cannot setup a non American Apple Watch with cellular if you want blood oxygen. It may be disappointing if y’all want stainless steel or the black Apple Watch Ultra 2 with this feature, and use cellular. It will remain a GPS only and Wi-Fi /bluetooth only brick 🧱 until then.
What’s this based on? The Canadian/Mexican model are the same as the US. Cellular should work.
Europe/rest of world - only certain bands overlap.
 
What’s this based on? The Canadian/Mexican model are the same as the US. Cellular should work.
Europe/rest of world - only certain bands overlap.
Apologies I forgot that latest Apple Watch Series 8 and later have cellular models specifically for Northern America, not just the United States. That also includes S9 and S10.
 
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Just drive to Canada or Mexico and buy it. Or ask a friend who’s traveling to pick one up. This is far more complicated than it should be.
 
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Just drive to Canada or Mexico and buy it. Or ask a friend who’s traveling to pick one up. This is far more complicated than it should be.
This is what I'd like clarity on. If I get a Series 10 (GPS) from Canada, but activate it in the US, with a US phone/Apple account, with blood oxygen work? Are there any other downsides from getting a watch from another country and activating it in the US?
 
I might just ship it to my friend in Canada and have him ship it to me, I wonder how much shipping would cost.
disregard. I misunderstood the post

Good luck with that. Pairing your watch with your friend's phone isn't gonna work the way you think it will.
 
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Why would I pair it to his phone

My comment was in context of the thread - your post was immediately after someone's concern about blood-ox being disabled if the watch is initialized in the US and, as @Howard2k wrote, you seemed to suggest you would ship your watch to your friend in Canada to set it up before shipping it back to the US
 
This is what I'd like clarity on. If I get a Series 10 (GPS) from Canada, but activate it in the US, with a US phone/Apple account, with blood oxygen work? Are there any other downsides from getting a watch from another country and activating it in the US?

Yes, it will work. The Watch model number is the difference, not the Apple account.
 
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Yes, it will work. The Watch model number is the difference, not the Apple account.
That is what is clearly stated in the fine print. If you got an early model S9 or used a foreign Apple Watch series 9 or 10 from a country that supports blood oxygen, then a software update, the region settings or an American based Apple ID will not affect the feature.
 
An additional point to note is the ITC ruling bars Apple from importing the infringing products into the U.S. But it doesn't stop individuals from doing that. So there's no reason for Apple to stop the sensor from working if it's linked to a U.S. Apple ID or other hardware.
 
An additional point to note is the ITC ruling bars Apple from importing the infringing products into the U.S. But it doesn't stop individuals from doing that. So there's no reason for Apple to stop the sensor from working if it's linked to a U.S. Apple ID or other hardware.
Agree. 👍 that is why it is based on model number
 
It looks like the price of an Apple Watch in Canada is about the same as in the US plus it includes tax. Seems like the way to go.
 
The idea of getting your watch from another country for o2 sensor and phone from another country for sim slot for Apple products is Both a frustrating prospect while also a little hilarious it’s gotten that restricted in US
 
Just drive to Canada or Mexico and buy it. Or ask a friend who’s traveling to pick one up. This is far more complicated than it should be.

I'm in Mexico at the moment and it's pricier here than the US, esp. when you take into account discounts on Amazon. I don't know if this is a feature that's worth $100+, esp. as it should eventually be resolved.
 
I'm in Mexico at the moment and it's pricier here than the US, esp. when you take into account discounts on Amazon. I don't know if this is a feature that's worth $100+, esp. as it should eventually be resolved.
Not to mention the unknowns of getting warranty or applecare service in the US on a model purchased elsewhere. Anyone have direct experience getting service on a CA or MX model in the US?

I believe I read the patents expire in 2028, so from a business perspective Apple may be considering how many US sales they'll realistically lose between now and then vs the cost to capitulate and license the technology.

I get the principle of the matter, but am also curious as to what actionable information people are gaining from the sensor and what they then do with that information?
 
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