Series 3 notifications with phone off?

Maui19

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Today I was out all day with my S3 watch, but with my phone at home turned off. I know text messages won't be forwarded to my watch with my phone off (at least I think this is correct--mebbe it is only iMessages?) Anyway, I got home, booted up my phone and found I had 11 emails messages and that none of these had shown up on my phone. All my notification settings on my watch and phone were on and set properly.

I had even gone in to the email program on my watch and "swimped down" to get it to look for email, and it found none.

This is very disappointing because one of the main reasons I upgraded to the S3 is so that I could stay in touch with work and family without having my phone on me.

Am I doing something wrong?
 

xraydoc

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Leave the phone on even if you leave it at home.

However, the email notifications still should have come through. What kind of email account is it? Gmail, iCloud, MS Exchange, etc.?
 

Maui19

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Leave the phone on even if you leave it at home.

However, the email notifications still should have come through. What kind of email account is it? Gmail, iCloud, MS Exchange, etc.?
It kinda defeats the purpose of having an S3 if you also have to leave your phone on to get email.

I have three active email accounts: gmail, icloud and an IMAP account from my website.
 

dave006

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How hard is it to just leave your iPhone on and connected to your carrier's network? I just leave mine charging when I want to just use my Watch while I am out.

For third-party apps, notifications are delivered to your Watch only if your paired iPhone is also connected to a network.

Dave
 

warburg

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I don't believe you will get mail notifications from web mail like Yahoo and gmail on your Series 3 AW if your paired phone is turned off.
 

Maui19

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I don't believe you will get mail notifications from web mail like Yahoo and gmail on your Series 3 AW if your paired phone is turned off.
So why didn't my iCloud email show up on my phone?
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How hard is it to just leave your iPhone on and connected to your carrier's network? I just leave mine charging when I want to just use my Watch while I am out.

For third-party apps, notifications are delivered to your Watch only if your paired iPhone is also connected to a network.

Dave
I frequent a couple places that specifically ask you to turn off all cell phones. Could I leave it on without being discovered? Perhaps, but I tend to respect the rules of the places where I visit as a guest.

FWIW, delivery of emails and messages has always been spotty for my S3 even with phone on.
 

dave006

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I frequent a couple places that specifically ask you to turn off all cell phones. Could I leave it on without being discovered? Perhaps, but I tend to respect the rules of the places where I visit as a guest.

FWIW, delivery of emails and messages has always been spotty for my S3 even with phone on.
Well this is a different concern than your original post above about leaving your iPhone at home but powered off and the responses that suggest that you leave your iPhone at home but connected to a network.

In this case, I would also go with the "rules" or the recommended policy of the location and just be offline while visiting such locations.

Dave
 

Maui19

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Well this is a different concern than your original post above about leaving your iPhone at home but powered off and the responses that suggest that you leave your iPhone at home but connected to a network.

In this case, I would also go with the "rules" or the recommended policy of the location and just be offline while visiting such locations.

Dave
So why don't I get email on my "cellular" S3? This is the whole reason I upgraded from series 2.
 

co1f

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I think you missed the point of my post. Without your phone connected, whether you are on WiFi or Cellular, you cannot get email notifications. Phone must be connected to the watch i.e. on your person.
With AW3 LTE, phone just needs to be connected to a network somewhere. Not necessarily nearby.
 

Mlrollin91

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With AW3 LTE, phone just needs to be connected to a network somewhere. Not necessarily nearby.
That is incorrect. Please refer to the support article and the Community Discussions link. Mail does not work on WiFi or Cellular if the iPhone is not connected. I have 2 LTE watches in my household, I can first hand verify this.

Mail requires and connected iPhone.
 

co1f

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So why didn't my iCloud email show up on my phone?
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I frequent a couple places that specifically ask you to turn off all cell phones. Could I leave it on without being discovered? Perhaps, but I tend to respect the rules of the places where I visit as a guest.

FWIW, delivery of emails and messages has always been spotty for my S3 even with phone on.
Depends on why the rules ask for you to turn off your phone. Generally it’s good to follow rules :)
E.g. if in a hospital, sometimes it’s necessary around sensitive equipment? Other places, they don’t want you broadcasting cell signals for other reasons. Or perhaps it’s because most phones have cameras? Of course AW’s don’t have cameras.
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That is incorrect. Please refer to the support article and the Community Discussions link. Mail does not work on WiFi or Cellular if the iPhone is not connected. I have 2 LTE watches in my household, I can first hand verify this.

Mail requires and connected iPhone.
I use it from my watch all the time without my phone nearby. Good enough test for me :)
Phone has to be connected to a network somewhere. Just not nearby.
 

Mlrollin91

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Depends on why the rules ask for you to turn off your phone. Generally it’s good to follow rules :)
E.g. if in a hospital, sometimes it’s necessary around sensitive equipment? Other places, they don’t want you broadcasting cell signals for other reasons. Or perhaps it’s because most phones have cameras? Of course AW’s don’t have cameras.
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I use it from my watch all the time without my phone nearby. Good enough test for me :)
Phone has to be connected to a network somewhere. Just not nearby.
Again, in order to receive mail notifications it must be connected to the phone. Clearly that is the case if I have two devices doing that and the OP is experiencing the same thing. In addition to that Mail is NOT listed as capable of doing this on Apple’s own support article. Also others in Apple Community discussion have experienced the same thing. So if you are claiming it’s different you need to support your position.
 

co1f

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Again, in order to receive mail notifications it must be connected to the phone. Clearly that is the case if I have two devices doing that and the OP is experiencing the same thing. In addition to that Mail is NOT listed as capable of doing this on Apple’s own support article. Also others in Apple Community discussion have experienced the same thing. So if you are claiming it’s different you need to support your position.
Mail app on LTE AW will not work standalone if phone is not connected somewhere. If phone is connected to network somewhere, it works for me. I’m not just talking about notifications, but reading my mail using the default Mail app on the watch.

You’re watch has to be connected (wifi or cellular) of course, but doesn’t need to be thethered to your phone.

As a matter of fact this should work for any AW that is connected to wifi. Where the phone is also connected to a network somewhere.
 

Mlrollin91

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Mail app on LTE AW will not work standalone if phone is not connected somewhere. If phone is connected to network somewhere, it works for me. I’m not just talking about notifications, but reading my mail using the default Mail app on the watch.

You’re watch has to be connected (wifi or cellular) of course, but doesn’t need to be thethered to your phone.

As a matter of fact this should work for any AW that is connected to wifi. Where the phone is also connected to a network somewhere.
As I have mentioned three times and so has the OP. We are talking about notifications. In order for it to mirror iPhone for mail notifications, it must be connected.
 

DesertSilver

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My AW is on cellular right now and I just sent myself an email and got the Mail.app notification on my Watch. I was even able to reply to myself using my AW alone...not connected to my iPhone.

I also get Google Voice notifications on my AW on runs when my iPhone is left at home. Google Voice does NOT have an AW app and I'm able to reply from the notification options on the AW. So this means third-party notifications come through when NOT connected to the iPhone. I've done this several times and I've included pictures as proof.

My understanding is the AW, however it's connected / LTE or non-LTE, just "talks" to the phone and not the cloud directly. So you get same notification behavior whether the AW is directly connected to the iPhone or not, obviously as long as the AW has a data connection.
 

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co1f

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As I have mentioned three times and so has the OP. We are talking about notifications. In order for it to mirror iPhone for mail notifications, it must be connected.
I was not clear. Notifications definitely work for me (and apparently others).
I was trying to say that... not only do notifications work, so does reading/ sending emails.

Sorry it doesn’t work for you or OP, but other than what’s been said here... perhaps you can try Apple support??
(Though I’ve read you might have to try several times as they aren’t always up-to-speed either)