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BeautifulWoman_1984

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Hey guys

Sorry to be making a thread on this, but I've spent so much time researching and I haven't been able to find an answer...

Security and user privacy are always my main priorities.
Are there any changes to security or user privacy?

I'm hoping the knowledgeable people of MacRumors can help me with this issue of user privacy because it's such a serious concern for me.

Thank you for any advice!
 
It might help you get more specific answers if you get more specific about what you do with your iPad where security and privacy are a critical concern. For example, anything you store in iCloud can legally be accessed by Apple:


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On the other hand, anything stored exclusively on your iPhone cannot be accessed by Apple.
 
It might help you get more specific answers if you get more specific about what you do with your iPad where security and privacy are a critical concern. For example, anything you store in iCloud can legally be accessed by Apple:


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On the other hand, anything stored exclusively on your iPhone cannot be accessed by Apple.
Thank you for your reply!

I was mostly referring to usage of the Safari web browser and if this kind of user data is sent back to Apple or other people online? I keep reading about all these exploits that it gets me worried...
 
I'm finding it hard to get an answer from the official Apple iPadOS 16 documents.

I'm ready to upgrade, but the worry about user privacy being less secure and the general security weakness of iPadOS 16 is holding me back... 😢😢😢

I forgot to mention that I'm currently running iPadOS 15.7.1.
 
Thank you for your reply!

I was mostly referring to usage of the Safari web browser and if this kind of user data is sent back to Apple or other people online? I keep reading about all these exploits that it gets me worried...
In general, for maximum security, you always want to stay as updated as you can. Every new release aims to be more secure than before. If you have read about a security vulnerability in iPadOS 16, chances are the vulnerability is also there in 15.7 and a few more too. Not always, but generally. Apple has a new security blog detailing some of their security models and it's a fascinating and detailed read. They also have bug bounties, so if anyone finds security holes in any of Apple's operating systems, Apple will pay up to 3 million dollars for a report on the problem so they can fix it. Security is a big deal. Apple has also heavily marketed its privacy practices and if they were to be caught with their hands in the proverbial cookie jar it would not be a good look PR wise. As such they have a great incentive to be responsible with user data, and in general they are. User data collection is opt-in and anonymised if opted in.
In conclusion, you probably should keep upgrading your operating systems when new ones are available for maximum security.

However, it is important to remember that the system level security and privacy practices is only a very small aspect of privacy when the internet and web gets involved. Most websites will track you as much as they can, data brokers collaborate with various websites to collect data across a myriad of sites, gather it together and combine data on users for sale, and fingerprinting techniques allow them to probabilistically identify you even if there is no unique identifier available for them to track. Apple uses tracking prevention in Safari, but it is almost impossible not to be tracked on the web to some extent. Not by Apple and iPadOS, but by the websites you visit. For maximum tracking prevention one can use something like Tor, where your traffic passes a lot of intermediate layers but it is slow compared to normal browsing and a lot of websites will not function properly like this due to limiting their use of features like javaScript. It would also mean you shouldn't log into any web accounts since that also allows identification.

Attempting to prevent all tracking online in today's world almost requires extremist attention to detail and blocks most conveniences and platforms from use. However, if the goal is just to limit tracking, adblockers and Safari's built-in tracking prevention with the latest operating systems + iCloud Private Relay will filter out a fair bunch.

Security and privacy are two very distinct things however. For security, Apple platforms are generally very good. They are for privacy too, but while it is "easy" to avoid compromising security, relatively speaking, it is almost impossible not to have any of what is considered personal data "leaked" or collected. Regardless of platforms or system software
 
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In general, for maximum security, you always want to stay as updated as you can. Every new release aims to be more secure than before. If you have read about a security vulnerability in iPadOS 16, chances are the vulnerability is also there in 15.7 and a few more too. Not always, but generally. Apple has a new security blog detailing some of their security models and it's a fascinating and detailed read. They also have bug bounties, so if anyone finds security holes in any of Apple's operating systems, Apple will pay up to 3 million dollars for a report on the problem so they can fix it. Security is a big deal. Apple has also heavily marketed its privacy practices and if they were to be caught with their hands in the proverbial cookie jar it would not be a good look PR wise. As such they have a great incentive to be responsible with user data, and in general they are. User data collection is opt-in and anonymised if opted in.
In conclusion, you probably should keep upgrading your operating systems when new ones are available for maximum security.

However, it is important to remember that the system level security and privacy practices is only a very small aspect of privacy when the internet and web gets involved. Most websites will track you as much as they can, data brokers collaborate with various websites to collect data across a myriad of sites, gather it together and combine data on users for sale, and fingerprinting techniques allow them to probabilistically identify you even if there is no unique identifier available for them to track. Apple uses tracking prevention in Safari, but it is almost impossible not to be tracked on the web to some extent. Not by Apple and iPadOS, but by the websites you visit. For maximum tracking prevention one can use something like Tor, where your traffic passes a lot of intermediate layers but it is slow compared to normal browsing and a lot of websites will not function properly like this due to limiting their use of features like javaScript. It would also mean you shouldn't log into any web accounts since that also allows identification.

Attempting to prevent all tracking online in today's world almost requires extremist attention to detail and blocks most conveniences and platforms from use. However, if the goal is just to limit tracking, adblockers and Safari's built-in tracking prevention with the latest operating systems + iCloud Private Relay will filter out a fair bunch.

Security and privacy are two very distinct things however. For security, Apple platforms are generally very good. They are for privacy too, but while it is "easy" to avoid compromising security, relatively speaking, it is almost impossible not to have any of what is considered personal data "leaked" or collected. Regardless of platforms or system software
Thank you for your reply!

My big worry was that the links I visit in Safari or any other web browser would be sent back to Apple. 😥😥😥
This is what I meant by "user privacy".
 
My big worry was that the links I visit in Safari or any other web browser would be sent back to Apple. 😥😥😥
This is what I meant by "user privacy".
What makes you think iPadOS 16 has changed anything in this regard relative to iPadOS 15?

Frankly I don't think Apple cares to know. If they were to theoretically collect info like that on their users, they'd have so many sites and data points that to them likely doesn't give substantial value. They may collect it if you opt in to data collection to figure out what is popular in an anonymised fashion but there's no point in knowing individual user data for Apple. They may find which web tech is most important to users with anonymise statistical opt-in data but that's it at most
 
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My big worry was that the links I visit in Safari or any other web browser would be sent back to Apple. 😥😥😥
This is what I meant by "user privacy".

I know Apple has my web history data since I have iCloud sync enabled for Safari. Alas, privacy and convenience are often at odds with each other.

I don't believe Apple does anything with that data though apart from syncing it amongst my plethora of Apple devices.
 
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Thank you for your replies!

I decided to upgrade and I just finished installing iPadOS 16.1.1 and it's running great!

I haven't tried any of the new features but it seems stable so that's good enough for me.

I'll need to look into the best features it brings.
 
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