Serious OS switching question

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by sundog925, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. sundog925 macrumors 6502a

    Dec 19, 2011
    Now that android has reached stability that mirrors iOS, anyone thinking about dropping iOS?

    So many phones have caught my attention in the last couple years, HTC One, Galaxy S7 Edge, Pixel etc, and being that I've been with iPhone since iPhone 4 on Verizon, anyone else feel like me and want a different experience?
    Not trying to sound snobbish, just wish iOS would CHANGE, not just 'refine'.
  2. pika2000 macrumors 601

    Jun 22, 2007
    If you want to switch just for the sake of change, then just buy Android. The good thing is there are plenty of cheap Android phones to try.
    I recommend OnePlus 3T.
  3. Alaindeloin macrumors newbie

    Oct 3, 2016
    The problem is not the OS. The problem is that on android apps are less stable because is much harder to code an app which has to work on hundred of differents phones hardware.
    I was on android for 7 years and the 7+ is my first iPhone.
  4. BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    If you want to switch, switch. Why the need to see if others feel like you do, unless they are paying your bills?

    If you have to create a thread to get other people to tell you whether you should switch or not, you have a bigger issue that needs addressing, than whether to go to Android or not.
  5. jshtroutman macrumors regular


    Sep 9, 2016
    I switched to a galaxy s7edge for a few months. Phone was really nice but wasn't for me. Give it a shot and see what you think.
  6. I7guy macrumors Core


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    Every once in a while I play with the samsungs at the Verizon store, but I like my iPhone.
  7. pixel_junkie macrumors 6502


    Oct 31, 2015
    Yes, lots of people. Pick up a Pixel and never look back. You'll love it, mark my words.
  8. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    That's a good joke :D
  9. bufffilm Suspended


    May 3, 2011
    I have a bigger complaint that there isn't much of a selection with CDMA phones.

    But if you fancy trying Android out, go one is stopping you.
  10. sundog925 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Dec 19, 2011
    NEXT. thanks for the snark, but ill stick to the more sensible and less grandiose comments on the thread.
  11. nutriousmitten macrumors regular

    Feb 7, 2017
    Depends how tied into Google you are to some extent.

    Less of an issue now that Google and Apple are more or less playing nice on iOS, but Android still has more Google functionality then iOS for things like maps, navigation etc. "Ok Google" IMO is better than Siri at this point too.

    I've had Android phones now since about 2010. Galaxy SII, HtC One X, Note 3, HTC M7(a fantastic phone for its time, probably the best phone in 2012 great form factor, I still have this as a backup/Mp3 player) Note 4 and currently Note 5. Almost got a Note 7 but the issues popped up a few days before picking one up. Wife has had Iphones and never issue with them, and I just can never justify the full switch, but getting closer....almost trying to justify two lines. Ipad integration is also winning me over, if nothing else other then I-Message.

    Hardware will always bring me back or tempt me to Android. Sucker for great screens and Samsung's panels are the best right now. Use the S-pen every now and then and its really great (tried the Apple Pencil on an IPP and can't believe you can't do some of the things on it as you can on a "lesser tech" Note 5 as far as screen markups within any app, cutting out content etc). Cameras are excellent, build quality is too. And various parts of the Android/Samsung UI (widgets, things like Twitter timelines, basic themes), in addition to the Google integration, work really really well (for me), that I know I would somewhat miss if moving to iOS.
  12. syphern macrumors 6502

    Jan 15, 2008
    To get opinions
  13. Ertavarez macrumors newbie

    Dec 17, 2012
    I was an android fan boy for 5 year my last Android was the nexus 5x it was the worst experience, trust me I would never look back to another android phone.
  14. niploteksi macrumors regular

    Dec 11, 2016
    Which model are you using now? I've had Sony, Samsung and Lenovo besides iPhone. Samsung was my favorite. The Lenovo suffered from weird "screen sickness" with random inputs during bad weather. The Sony felt like the best quality of the three but for some reason I just didn't like it.

    One thing to keep in mind when buying an Android phone is that they put in different "bloat wares". Sometimes the extra apps or user interface is good, but sometimes it's just annoying.

    I have no desire going back to iOS for my phone... I still use an iPad but I've been thinking of going Android on my next tablet...
  15. Andrewtst macrumors 6502


    Oct 28, 2016
    Just go ahead. Switch make a new refresh. No worried on stability as Android is very stable now and it is even ahead iOS stability to me.

    But I believe stability is not the only concern right. Go ahead what you feel want to use. :)

    No point loyal to any brand any OS as you get nothing on it.

    Loyal to yourself what you want in your heart.
  16. sundog925 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Dec 19, 2011
    Using iPhone 6S but i mean, i love the widgets for android, multiple screens for work/school etc. even the notifications window is better organized than apple.
    idk. just kinda annoying thats all. I like the cloud services, but other than that, its been pretty banal for years now
  17. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Sure, but out of curiosity, how do other personal opinions affect something that's fairly subjective? If various people like the color blue does that have some effect on someone else liking red?
  18. timeconsumer macrumors 68000


    Aug 1, 2008
    I disagree that Android has reached stability that mirrors iOS. I've been using a Pixel for just over 3 months now which gets all of the latest updates, etc. But I can assure you that this device with stock Android does not mirror the stability of iOS. Having said that, it's still a good device and possibly the best android experience. But, I didn't get an Android device for stability, I got an Android device because I wanted a different experience since I've been using iPhones since the 3G. It was absolutely worth it in my opinion just for the different experience.

    With the Pixel I've had both hardware and software issues which led to two replacement devices being sent to me by Verizon. One of which I declined because it wasn't any better than my current device.

    Hardware issues: microphone stopped working, charging issues (would fluctuate being charging and not charging).
    Software issues: wifi calling keeps disabling itself, so I have to continuously go in and re-enable it. Voicemail tab in the phone dialer app randomly disappears and I have to go disable visual voicemail, then re-enable it. With the recent February patch my battery life is not nearly as good as it was with the same apps/usage and my phone has locked up twice requiring me to force restart the phone by holding the power button until it shuts off.

    I've had to deal with Google support and Verizon customer service more in the 3 months of ownership of a Pixel, in comparison to the entire time I've used iPhones. And when I had to deal with Apple support, it was a much more pleasant experience. That's not to say Google/Verizon has treated me poorly, because they haven't. It's just much more time consuming to deal with those companies. With Apple I just walk into a store and show my issue to somebody in the store and they fix it without me having to do anything else. With Google they send you a full e-mail of troubleshooting steps you do yourself and report back to them each step along the way.

    I don't dislike the Pixel, but it's definitely not near as stable as any iPhone I've had. This is a phone that Google controls both the hardware and software of it, so it's a bit disappointing to me. MWC is next week so I'd recommend waiting until then to see what is announced and go from there.
  19. Luuthian macrumors member

    Apr 22, 2013
    I would recommend getting a cheap Android phone to test before buying a fancy one. The OnePLus 3T was a good recommendation. Not to expensive for really good specs and a very nearly pure android experience.

    I've switched between Android and iOS many, MANY times and I always come back to Apple. Similarly though, I had to try Android just to get it tout of my system. I don't recommend a Samsung device if you can help it. Get a pure Android phone like the OnePlus 3T or the Pixel or it'll spoil the experience. Here's a quick rundown of why i keep coming back to Apple:

    - Phone/tablet restoration is easy through itunes and iCloud. Everything carries over including your login details etc. There aren't multiple accounts to manage like Samsung or LG or Google or so on that you need. You're also kind fo "stuck" with the brand of the device maker for your next Android phone if you want everything to carry over to your next new device easily.

    - iMessage. Nothing is better at this point in time. Google's solutions have all been awful or miss large parts of the picture. The lack of SMS through Allo or Hangouts is horrible and often times images sent through any of Google's apps get stuck or look like low res garbage.

    - Synchronicity is amazing if that matters to you. Apps carry over from your iPad to your phone to possibly your Apple TV. Purchases all sync too for things like movies or books or whatever. Plus most apps are actually designed specifically for your iPad and most apps are faaaaar more optimized for iPhone and ipad. We also tend to get apps and updates first.

    - The App store is better. It just is. It has more apps (legit ones especially), they're actually designed specifically for your device, it's laid out better, most of the apps don't look weird because they've been dynamically altered, the apps are WAY less intense with advertising, etc.

    - Apple pay. it's great. And it's easy to use (at least in canada)

    - Phone optimization is perfect. Some people like to tinker with the phone but... i'm past that. I like that the phone has great battery life and memory optomization and I don't need to do anything to see these benefits. With Android you need to manually toggle notification options from inside or outside the app, manually turn on power savings mode, manually disable background data, etc. It's too much work, and even THEN apps can go rogue.

    - Again, synchronization. Google's sync services are annoying as is and drain stupid amounts of battery. Add to that your samsung account or LG account etc. Forget it.

    - 3D touch can be useful, really! It's like a right click for your phone.

    That's pretty long winded and I could go on but that's the jist of it. Androids have a certain allure but so far as I've seen it shiny on the specs sheet, sour underneath. The more pure androids get way more right than others (like Samsung) but they still have to live with the awkwardness of the Android eco system.

    Get the urge out of you if you must, but don't spend too much to do it.
  20. niploteksi macrumors regular

    Dec 11, 2016
    That's a pretty nice phone though, isn't it? Banal for years? I don't think it's really going to change in the foreseeable future. There might be new services but the OS will probably be and look the same for years to come (just guessing). One reason to keep the iPhone would be the integration with Mac OS, although I can't really voice any valid opinion on the Android integration with Mac OS.

    If phones are a thing for you and you want to switch, my only advice would be to not buy a cheap Android phone. Go ahead and switch, then you can switch back when the iPhone 8 is out (if you change your mind about Android).

    Edit: and by "not cheap" I don't necessarily mean 1000 USD..
  21. Luuthian macrumors member

    Apr 22, 2013
    Yeah, be careful if you get an actually cheap Android phone... They're really, really unfortunate devices. There's a huge difference between cheaply made Android phones and an Android phone that was priced well but comes with real, actual hardware like a OnePlus.

    And don't expect much about Android to blow you away. In the end, aside from the widgets, the experience is the same but less IMO. All phones these days are just apps on a home scren that you peck at with your finger. if you want something truly "new" from your phone... You'll be waiting a long time :p
  22. rbrian macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2011
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    I've been buying iPhones for too long. After the 6, the 6s was a disappointment- there was barely any difference, except the big hole in my bank account. I wasn't going to buy the 7 either, but my family has got used to me passing on the old ones, and asked for help when the 6 got broken. The 7 is better, and iOS 10 makes 3D Touch slightly more than a gimmick, but the price!

    Insulted by Apple's price gouging on the new MacBooks, and raising prices on the OLD ones (instead I bought a Surface Pro 4 for half the price of a 12" MacBook), plus a creeping boredom with iOS, and dissatisfaction with software glitches, I decided on a whim to try Android, when I saw one for £50 in Amazon's daily deals, coupled with a £10 off when you spend £50 on just that day. I spent £40 on a BLU with 5.5" screen, 1Gb ram, 8Gb storage, and Android 6.0. To my surprise, it isn't bad. The screen is good enough, Android 6 M is excellent (and I have no doubt 7 N and 8 O will be better still), but the camera, speaker, ram and storage are awful, so I recommend spending a little more. The OnePlus 3T gets excellent reviews.

    All the apps I want are available, they all work well, but there is one killer app which just isn't on iOS, for no reason I can discern. Microsoft Office Remote for Android is brilliant, free, and is much easier to set up than any of the 3rd party paid options on iOS.

    I'll keep my iPhone 7 for a while, but even if the 8 is perfect, I doubt I'll buy it. Brexit has caused prices to rise across the board, so it'll almost certainly be more than £1000. I can't justify spending that kind of money when I don't fully use every feature, and when the features I do use are available for a tenth of the price elsewhere. I like my Apple Watch, surprisingly that'll be the thing I miss most.

    I've been slowly moving away from Apple services, instead using Office 365 with OneDrive, Amazon Prime for music and videos and photo storage, and Microsoft and Amazon apps work just as well on Android as they do on iOS.
  23. hallux macrumors 68030


    Apr 25, 2012

    SO MUCH this. So many people have bought inexpensive Android devices to try them out (with the intent of going higher-end if they like it), only to go back to iOS because their experience was horrible. Low cost generally means low spec. Also, so many people think Samsung is the only Android brand, yet Samsung devices have resulted in some of the worst complaints about device performance because of TouchWiz. Sure, it may be better now but there's a history and only time will tell how the current crop of devices perform as Samsung updates them in the next 18 months (if that long, another sore point for Samsung).

    I'd be reluctant to suggest a OnePlus device, with CyanogenMod folding, unless OP picks up with the new OS that resulted from that departure.
  24. Luuthian macrumors member

    Apr 22, 2013
    Can't agree more. Samsung is somehow the most widely recognized Android device and yet it's by far one of the worst. It doesn't matter what kind of specs they throw at you on paper, the software implementation is abysmal. And there's nothing like being stuck with baked in apps you can't get rid of without a complicated rooting process that voids your warranty. Honestly, what's the point of giving the device 4GB of ram if 3GB of that is taken up by samsung's background tasks and other garbage? What a waste.

    The newer OnePlus devices run on Oxygen which is almost vanilla Android. It works well enough and at least it seems to actually get updated unlike most Samsung phones.
  25. v0lume4 macrumors 68000


    Jul 28, 2012
    I recently jumped ship to Android and am very happy. I originally wanted the Pixel XL, but after it being on backorder for so long (STILL!), I realized that I'd rather try Android cheaply (notice I didn't say buy a cheap Android phone -- I said try it cheaply) and decide if I like it instead of spending $800 on an Android phone and realizing that I don't like it. So I bought a used Nexus 6P off of eBay for $370. Practically good as new. It's a terrific phone.

    After using Android for about a month now, I believe I can sum up the jump in one sentence:

    Android has shown me how much more advanced Android is than iOS, while also helping me to realize how well iOS does the fundamentals.

    In my personal experience thus far, I've already gotten used to Android-specific features that I know I'd miss if I had to lose them again. Google Now, "Ok Google" voice activation, Android's notifications, and Android's sharing functionalities to name my favorites. Android is a more open platform and therefore it is more functional. That comes with the negatives of an open platform though -- you have to baby it a bit more. Namely, I have to watch the apps that I download and make sure that they aren't running in the background and killing my battery. I'm a pretty tech-savvy person so I don't mind the little bit of fiddling that I have to do with the phone because generally speaking, it works great 95% of the time. And I'm LOVING this AMOLED screen.

    If you try Android, give it a good two to three weeks so that you really know if you like it or not. During the adjustment period you're going to be prone to getting frustrated and thinking "the iPhone doesn't have this problem!" or "the iPhone makes this way easier to do!" etc. Let that phase pass before you make a final decision.

    I'd love to answer any questions that you have.

    edit --

    I recommend trying a OnePlus 3T or something. That way, if you don't like the phone, you aren't out $800. Be careful--you might like your OnePlus 3T so much that you realize you've been getting ripped off for years paying $700-800 for a phone. That's sort of what's happened to me. :p

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