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Pelea

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So it looks like the rmbp 13 inch and the mbas will be updated on Monday with broadwell chips, meaning we're gonna get very insignificant performance boosts.. Why Would apple do this instead of waiting till skylake, which offers new features plus more noticeable performance improvements (according to leaks and Intel anyway)?

Do u think the rmbp could be updated 2x in one year???
 
I just bought an 13inch Macbook Pro. I'm still in my return period......wondering if i should return it if there is an upgrade......:rolleyes:
 
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Makes alot of sense for the air as it's all about light and battery life, rather than performance.
 
Pelea said:
So it looks like the rmbp 13 inch and the mbas will be updated on Monday with broadwell chips, meaning we're gonna get very insignificant performance boosts.. Why Would apple do this instead of waiting till skylake, which offers new features plus more noticeable performance improvements (according to leaks and Intel anyway)?

Do u think the rmbp could be updated 2x in one year???
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You clearly do not know anything about tech world.

Why would they keep old architecture, when they can put there newer more efficient, more powerful.

They will surely move on Skylake later on, when the time is right.
 
simonsi said:
Of course, how else do you think the model line up came to include both "Early 2011" and "Late 2011" models for example...
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early "2xxx" models are usually just very very minor bumps using the same generation processor.. they aren't actual upgrades. i'm talking about 2 different generation chips (broadwell + skylake) in the same year. that seems highly unlikely
 
simonsi said:
Of course, how else do you think the model line up came to include both "Early 2011" and "Late 2011" models for example...
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austinpike said:
Of course. There are plenty of models that have "Early 20XX" and "Late 20XX" versions. This will be "Early 2015."
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Actually, for the rMBP, that has happened as recently as 2013, and there was a refresh in early 2014 as well, so three total in just about a year.
 
Pelea said:
early "2xxx" models are usually just very very minor bumps using the same generation processor.. they aren't actual upgrades. i'm talking about 2 different generation chips (broadwell + skylake) in the same year. that seems highly unlikely
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Given that Skylake isn't slated to even be released until 4Q, I doubt you'd see Apple release any machines based on the platform until early 2016 anyways. There is always some delay between when Intel releases a new platform and when OEMs have systems based on that platform available for sale to the public.
 
newellj said:
Actually, for the rMBP, that has happened as recently as 2013, and there was a refresh in early 2014 as well, so three total in just about a year.
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out of the 3 you mentioned, only one was an actual upgrade (late 2013). 2014 was simply bringing back the 8gb of ram that they removed in 2013.. and early 2013 was only a slight processor bump which had no real world difference..
 
There is actually a lot of sense for Apple in upgrading to Broadwell. In addition to all the other incremental improvements, there is a big one — the GPU. Even if the performance improvement is not incredible, there are some dramatic changes under the hood, such as unified virtual memory. This is important, because it basically obsoletes the entire concept of video memory. All the memory accessible by a CPU process is also directly accessible by the GPU. No need to copy the data, no need to treat GPU data specially. Its likely that this will result in faster and more stable drivers and speedier/more efficient UI drawing.
 
Pelea said:
out of the 3 you mentioned, only one was an actual upgrade (late 2013). 2014 was simply bringing back the 8gb of ram that they removed in 2013.. and early 2013 was only a slight processor bump which had no real world difference..
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You're looking at Broadwell too narrowly. The potential for additional runtime and graphics performance is (depending on your perspective) fairly significant.
 
Pelea said:
early "2xxx" models are usually just very very minor bumps using the same generation processor.. they aren't actual upgrades. i'm talking about 2 different generation chips (broadwell + skylake) in the same year. that seems highly unlikely
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The point is Apple are willing to update multiple times a year. Whether they can do so with a CPU technology change is gated in the hands of Intel, if they don't release new processors Apple can't base on them.

I would take this refresh as possibly indicating that the Skylake availability date is at risk, hence Apple keeping momentum with a same-tech refresh. That being said it will, as others have said, give energy and battery life improvements, there may be other non-CPU changes Apple will introduce as well for all we know...
 
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