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The DMA makes iOS a less closed system, less uniform, more complex and less controlled by Apple. It gives developers more powers.

Since I consider developers to be harmful and horrible people until proven otherwise, it's not something I'm looking forward to.
I don’t get this
Just don’t download the apps then
 
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MacPaw has never had App Store apps in the first place. Except the Unarchiver that they have purchased some time ago.

They own a lot of quite useless products such as Clean My Mac (which I suspect has always been a spyware) and their own SetApp app store.

Honestly idk what they are trying to sell while having no actual product. Everyone have been placing their apps either outside the Apple App Store on websites (for Macs) or on the App Store
Clean My Mac is not spyware. I suspect SetApp is not as rigorous as Apple in checking apps made by others are safe but these are the same apps people may download directly from websites. I usually check before installing apps that aren't from the App Store anyway.

They also have a VPN, photo duplicate remover and CleanMyPhone apps for iOS. They all work fine.
I especially like CleanMyMac. It’s definitely not spyware. Even found a Trojan horse on my Mac. And it’s ideal to completely uninstall apps, update third party apps and remove old junk.
Same here. The post by Malwarebytes staff (linked above) suggests it might be a 'potentially unwanted program' - i.e. it's not really that useful - but they refer to deleting cache and logs which they don't see the use for. It's really useful for removing leftover apps, updating apps that weren't bought through the App Store and finding clutter (and not just cache and logs).
 
The DMA makes iOS a less closed system, less uniform, more complex and less controlled by Apple. It gives developers more powers.

Since I consider developers to be harmful and horrible people until proven otherwise, it's not something I'm looking forward to.
If that’s your (very very weird) position, you should not install any third party apps. Not even from the official App Store. Because they’re made by… developers.

And maybe stay away from smart phones and personal computers all together. Because developers.

They even work at Apple, you know?
This website btw? Created by a developer.

Just go offline and read a book. It will make you happier.
 
Love how people always want Apple to just copy other companies’ business models and then imply that somehow they would run Apple better than Tim Cook. Why aren’t you CEO then, and what business sense for Apple does it make to go directly against AWS and Azure who have already commoditized that space?
Timmy does a good job selling Jobs products but he is a bean counter and has no vision for the future of Apple. At least I would have several ideas that clearly separate from „lock competition out, lock users in“.
 
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i use setapp mac and it's a great product. for me it saves $ since many of the apps i use are subscriptions or paid updates. so for me it's great. but i doubt they will have the same arrangement for their alt app store. i think apple could use some competition on the app store front. they are pretty stuck on a model that leaves a lot to be desired imo
 
What are you trying to convey? Comparing the CEO to a dictator that aids Russia in their war and that exploits Uyghurs for forced labor? I wish we have higher quality of posts here.
You mean the CEO who cozies up to Xinnie the Pooh and is complicit in the exploitation of Uyghur forced labor?
 
Then don’t change your current diet. You don’t have to eat something else. It’s your CHOICE. Keep it simple and uniform if that’s what you want.

It’s like people can’t handle choice and freedom anymore.
How about the freedom to download any app from a single App Store? The issue here (and it is already happening) is the fragmentation between App Store. Suddenly some apps will migrate away from the App Store, users will be FORCED to download A WHOLE DAMN store to run one app.

It's a complex problem. I understand your point of view regarding diversity which IS CORRECT in so many ways. I also understand users that chose a simple eco-system that thrived thanks to its simplicity.
 
Since I consider developers to be harmful and horrible people until proven otherwise, it's not something I'm looking forward to.

Hey iOS developers and third party businesses, listen to this. Compliments of Apple App Store marketing.

Now you know what the App Store and its policies are for. Erode the value you deliver towards this mandatory Agent. Enforced by a trivial technical challenge, a file distribution system … and user locking at the OS level.

Soon you will be paid nothing more than musicians are, maybe you will be able to jam some software in the subway for pennies.

Think about what some App Store users think of you before helping Apple turning the Vision Pro into something useful and of actual value.
 
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Use at your own risk.
SetApp’s curation of its app is miles ahead of Apple - who will approve any crap-infested app as long as its makes them money - and doesn’t outright scam/steal.
My clueless family members also have crapware infested windows laptops. There are small gang wars occurring inside them between multiple antivirus products and VPNs that adverts on YouTube told them to buy and the malware they downloaded from promoted links on google. The casualties are the innocent bystanders (their data).
Idiots will be doing idiotic things to their computers. Not saying your family is a bunch of idiots - but regarding computer administration, they actually sound to be.
People constantly forget that Apple also provides thousands of SDKs and frameworks that make app development so much easier. It ensures device-wide compatibility and higher guaranteed compatibility with future OS and device updates. This is normally priced into the 30 or 15% commission, but is now also why the Core Technology Fee exists.
Some people forget that (the ecosystem) of third-party apps provides countless reasons for people to buy iPhones and iPads in the first place, that make Apple billions of mobey.
 
How about the freedom to download any app from a single App Store?
You’re free to download all of your apps from a single App Store.
And App Stores are free to carry the apps you might like.

Suddenly some apps will migrate away from the App Store, users will be FORCED to download A WHOLE DAMN store to run one app.
No one is forced. Just use another app.

Today’s even worse: I’m forced to go through a whole damn App Store for every app I want to run.
When there’s no technical reason I can’t just download directly from its developer.
 
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How about the freedom to download any app from a single App Store? The issue here (and it is already happening) is the fragmentation between App Store. Suddenly some apps will migrate away from the App Store, users will be FORCED to download A WHOLE DAMN store to run one app.

It's a complex problem. I understand your point of view regarding diversity which IS CORRECT in so many ways. I also understand users that chose a simple eco-system that thrived thanks to its simplicity.
The answer to your problem is simple: vote with your wallet. If you don’t want to purchase apps from third party stores, don’t do it. Make devs know you’re not following and find alternatives.

But… there is not a single app that has left the App Store. Devs can continue to sell their apps in both stores. So, if you want to buy them in the App Store and a higher price, you have the choice to do so. This problem is way overblown.
 
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The answer to your problem is simple: vote with your wallet. If you don’t want to purchase apps from third party stores, don’t do it. Make devs know you’re not following and find alternatives.

But… there is not a single app that has left the App Store. Devs can continue to sell their apps in both stores. So, if you want to buy them in the App Store and a higher price, you have the choice to do so. This problem is way overblown.
It's not. It's already happening with whatever emulator Game (Vectra I think Delta) that came out the other day and is not available on the App Store but only on the XYZ store.

It's just an example but that app IS available on the US store, not on the EU store.

Is this overblown? I hope. Time will tell.
 
Lol EU users get ready to subscribe to a bunch of setapp alternatives

Funny thing is, PC gamers hate having to install many different stores / launchers for their games.

Yet, MacRumors are welcoming what people on PC's hate.
 
People constantly forget that Apple also provides thousands of SDKs and frameworks that make app development so much easier. It ensures device-wide compatibility and higher guaranteed compatibility with future OS and device updates. This is normally priced into the 30 or 15% commission, but is now also why the Core Technology Fee exists.

However, apps that don’t use any Apple SDKs should’nt have to pay anything, in my opinion. But I also believe Apple giving you access to millions of customers does have some value that is worth more than $0.

Providing SDKs is the minimum thing you should provide if you're providing a platform. Otherwise apps can't be created. If they don't provide this, apps won't be created and the iPhone won't be what it is now. Again, Apple is getting paid for this very much by customers buying their iPhones because their favorite apps exist there.

I can understand that app creators should pay for distributing the app via for instance App Store, but that should be optional. Just how it is on Mac. Where they also provide SDKs, btw. Very little of the programs I use on Mac comes from App Store. If this was not allowed, I would not buy Mac anymore. I'm sure this is different for everyone where some people might rely 100% on App Store even on Mac, but still.
 
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