"Settings" is Bloated

[richwoodrocket]

We need more settings on iOS. On android, there's a setting for everything. Yes it might be a bit confusing at first, but after you poke around for a few minutes you get to know where everything is. And if you do something frequently usually you remember where it is in settings...

 

[Max(IT)]

We need more settings on iOS. On android, there's a setting for everything. Yes it might be a bit confusing at first, but after you poke around for a few minutes you get to know where everything is. And if you do something frequently usually you remember where it is in settings...

I don't want iOS to be Android.
Actually I want it to be as different from Android as it can be.

 

[newellj]

Agree with that...speaking as the former owner of LG, Samsung and Motorola Android phones. Android - this my opinion, YMMV - is a mess. Too many hardware manufacturers, too many different takes on firmware, too many different features in firmware, too many phones that don't support a newer OS, too many carriers blocking firmware and OS upgrades....

 

[C DM]

I don't want iOS to be Android.
Actually I want it to be as different from Android as it can be.

Somehow adding some useful advanced settings deeper in the settings menu won't magically do anything of the sort. Most won't even know or care that it's there (as they don't even know about various accessibility settings that already exist), and nothing would change for them, while those who might care could change something they find useful to change for their experience.

That said, as mentioned earlier, it's not even what the OP was about.

 

[newellj]

If iOS 9 rumors turn out to be correct (who knows?), that may be a chance for Apple to tweak the settings...we shall see.

 

[Tmelon]

My only gripe with the Settings app is how it lists every single app at the bottom. Seems clunky. Other than that they always move things around from version to version but it's no big deal for me.

 

[kmj2318]

At the very least I think they should add headers inside the grey separation areas in the main settings area, like it is done in other areas of settings. The settings are separated by hardware, NC and CC, preferences, Apple ID, Apple apps, Apps that link to iTunes, third party internet accounts, and third party apps. Some of those categories are sort of hard to explain succinctly, but maybe that would indicate that they should be group differently. Simply having headers would be easier to tell people where to go when helping them, and remember how the settings are organized.

 

[LordQ]

The system settings are nowhere near bloated... App's settings -the ones at the bottom- tho...

 

[tomtattoo]

It would be enough if Apple would allow us to sort the settings like every other list. So many things I never use and I would move them to the bottom.

 

[swordfish5736]

My only gripe with the Settings app is how it lists every single app at the bottom. Seems clunky. Other than that they always move things around from version to version but it's no big deal for me.

The list at the bottom contains a consolidated view of all the available settings to an app so its kind of useful.

Yeah, but let's say you have 2+ Bluetooth devices to choose from. Wouldn't it be nice to swipe up and instead of tapping the Bluetooth icon hold it down and get the list of paired devices?
The way things are now I have to 1) Leave whatever I'm doing; 2) Go to Settings/Bluetooth; 3) Pair the saved device; 4) Click the home button and return to whatever I was doing.

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I agree that the omniscient design is valuable, and I'm not arguing for its demise. If just like to know why is it necessary to leave an app/open Settings almost every time you want to adjust something. Plenty of apps offer Settings options in the app. my example to access Bluetooth paired devices by swiping up and holding down the Bluetooth button until paired-devices appears subtracts many steps from 1) Leaving your app; 2) Going to Settings/Bluetooth; 3) Then choosing the paired device; 4; Clicking the home button; 5) Returning to the app...
That's s lot of junk to go through.

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If you have more than 1 paired Bluetooth device, Yes. If you have a limited data plan and in Match have to switch from "Show all music" to "Show music on this phone", Yes.

And Apple gets so excited by its iCloud services. The storage is crap. Hidden under many layers of Settings, you can finally find the "Back-up now" icon. You cannot access any single list of files you've uploaded.

well the way you want it you'd have to 1. stop what you are doing 2. pull up CC 3. push and hold bluetooth 4. wait for a prompt to show up 5. select the device you want 6. close the BT selection menu 7. close CC. 8. return to what you are doing

I can't remember the last time I had to open the bluetooth settings menu to connect to an already paired device. I have 6 different BT devices paired to my phone by the way.


it takes 3 steps to manually make an iCloud backup, and that includes opening the settings app. For something that occurs automatically in the background why would it need to be on the first page? It's exactly where it belongs. Sure you can, just use an app that supports iCloud drive.

 

[Tmelon]

The list at the bottom contains a consolidated view of all the available settings to an app so its kind of useful.

My issue with it is that they put it on the main settings screen instead of hiding it behind an "Application Settings" screen. Also, the majority of apps that I have, some Apple apps included, already have their settings built into the app itself. It just seems inconsistent.

 

[swordfish5736]

My issue with it is that they put it on the main settings screen instead of hiding it behind an "Application Settings" screen. Also, the majority of apps that I have, some Apple apps included, already have their settings built into the app itself. It just seems inconsistent.

They are at the bottom of the main page though. It's not like you have to scroll thru them to get to another setting though. You never even have to look at them if you don't want, just don't scroll that far down. For those that like the consistency of having all available settings on one page it's right there.

which settings are built into apps? I don't see notifications, location/privacy settings, or background app refresh available from within apps.

 

[Gav2k]

Yep. And things like Location Services, Managing iCloud storage and iTunes Match (to name a few) appearing under multiple menus just goes to show Apple doesn't know where to put them either.

There all in relivant sub menu's

 

[Max(IT)]

Everyone with his solution to the problem.... Is it so difficult to understand that we have different tastes and different needs ?
So what is bloated for someone, is ok for someone else.

 

[BigInDallas]

I'm happy with setting the way they are. Apple does a good job with this, everything in one place. Nice and easy. Its nice and easy to go thru your apps and make sure location or notifications are on/off. No opening and closing apps

If Android made developers conform to some basic app structure (setting in same place, etc) I would have no problem with that. One thing I have noticed since I got my 6+ is I do prefer some android versions of apps better than iOS version. Most of the iOS apps are easier to use though.

 

[FelixAng]

well the way you want it you'd have to 1. stop what you are doing 2. pull up CC 3. push and hold bluetooth 4. wait for a prompt to show up 5. select the device you want 6. close the BT selection menu 7. close CC. 8. return to what you are doing
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I think you've imagined this a bit different. For me, I would never have to tap the Home button. The fast way now involves leaving the open app, double-tapping (!) Home button once (if Settings is open already) and double-tapping again(!) to return to the formerly open app---not to mention leaving the app entirely!

In my way it would be a simple swipe up and single long touch. The app is still open and in sight.

I just find it annoying that so many things involve leaving what I'm doing to go to Settings and toggle around. That part of "leaving" by way of tapping/double-tapping the Home button makes a considerable interruption one's momentum.

Let me give you another example. Why is the Equalizer for Music tucked away in the last possible toggle of Setttings/Music/EQ? EQ should be accessible IN the app.

If Match is on, one shouldn't need to go to Settings to turn On/Off the "show me all my songs in iCloud." If you're Wifi/Data connection isn't good (or you just want to save time by seeing what IS on your device), it shouldn't involve so many steps.