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I presume this is wrong and the new chip will be called the M2. Richie says the M1 is the A14X. So calling something an M1X breaks the rules of Apples naming conventions.

Richie is being silly. The M1 is not “the A14X.” It’s much more different than the A14 than any X-variant has been from its namesake. The only thing that it is the same is the core microarchitecture. The core physical design, overall microarchitecture, etc. are completely different.

In any event, there is no M1X.
 
At the end of the day it’s the specs that really matter… I would think that from a marketing perspective there won’t be any “x” chips anymore, iPhone always used the next number and only some iPads got a “x”. Also, “x” indicates an iteration, not a “new” chip, but that’s just me…
 
Is the 'front logo' the words "MacBook Pro" just beneath the screen? Just keeping the Apple on the back of the screen (like the new iMac) makes sense.

Yah, the correct term is "logotype" since it's type, not a symbolic image, or icon.

I know Apple is aiming for continue minimization, but this seems silly.
 
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I will say it once again - information I have says there is no M1X.

What is interesting is that the China Times codename for the "A14T" which they said was planned for the iMac (now iMac Pro?) and MacBook Pro was "Mt. Jade" and now we have Bloomberg saying the 16 GPU version will be called Jade C-Chop and the 32 GPU version will be called Jade C-Die.

Someone mentioned that Apple might be only making the 32-core model and then electrically disabling 16 of the cores ("chopping" them off) and this does make sense - we've seen Intel do something similar with CPU caches and cores and selling the "neutered" CPU for less. It is cheaper to produce only one model of SoC with 32 cores than to make separate 16 and 32 core models.

One could argue this could mean they will be based on the A14/M1 architecture and use the existing "Firestorm" performance CPU cores as opposed to the A15 architecture and use the newer "Lightning" performance CPU cores those will have.
 
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I kind of find it hard to believe they are dumping the touch bar. All that investment into it only to roll back to function keys?

And yes I know it's not popular here on MR. I'll be honest I don't find much use either but it's something unique and has lots of potential uses.
 
The iPad usually gets an X version of the latest iPhone processor so they have form on this naming convention.
 
Not long until WWDC and we hopefully find out exactly what this chip is and what it's called. It'd be pretty sweet if we were already on to M2X designs.
 
I hope they don’t keep the 13.3” MBP. Confusing, and makes it more likely the 14” will be insanely expensive :p
 
MBA the first to get the M2? Giving the entry-level products the M1 first made sense because the M1 doesn't have the RAM capacity or display support needed for pro-level products, but there's no way Apple will continue to put its fastest chips in its least expensive products. I would expect MBP's and bigger iMacs with M1X's, followed by a M1X option for the mini, then new MBA's with M1X, then M2 Mac Pro (remember me?), MBP and iMacs.
They have already done it. The iPad Air got the A14 chip before the iPad Pro. The MBA got the M1 chip before new MBPs. This seems to be the way Apple are going now. Non pro first then pro models later with an X version of the same chip.
 
i think the 10 core (2x efficiency, 8x performance) is perhaps a good idea. apple probably realized that when you need to be efficient, 2 cores is all you ever needed. someone the other day told me that efficiency cores have 1/6 the performance as the performance cores, so if you do the math and assuming the speed per core is the same, the m1 chip has a total of 4.6666 performance cores while the new chip would have a total of 8.3333 performance cores. this would mean 78% more multicore performance while perhaps being more efficient during low workloads.
 
What is interesting is that the China Times codename for the "A14T" which they said was planned for the iMac (now iMac Pro?) and MacBook Pro was "Mt. Jade" and now we have Bloomberg saying the 16 GPU version will be called Jade C-Chop and the 32 GPU version will be called Jade C-Die.

Someone mentioned that Apple might be only making the 32-core model and then electrically disabling 16 of the cores ("chopping" them off) and this does make sense - we've seen Intel do something similar with CPU caches and cores and selling the "neutered" CPU for less. It is cheaper to produce only one model of SoC with 32 cores than to make separate 16 and 32 core models.

One could argue this could mean they will be based on the A14/M1 architecture and use the existing "Firestorm" performance CPU cores as opposed to the A15 architecture and use the newer "Lightning" performance CPU cores those will have.

It's actually not cheaper to do that. You pay per wafer start, which means you want to minimize die area. The one-time costs producing separate masks for the 16 core version is tiny compared to the extra cost of all that useless silicon area.
 
Why the crap is Apple de-branding its stuff? First the iMacs and now the Macbooks? Don't they know seeing the words "Macbook Pro" especially when they show up in movies and such is great advertising?
It's just marketing fashion, at least as I see it. They aren't de-branding, just being more selective about it. Same reason Nike ads/products often don't say "Nike" anywhere. Simplicity, focus/minimalism, understated, content-focused, etc. Can you imagine how weird it would be if the iPad Pro said "iPad Pro" in big white letters right underneath the screen? Why wouldn't a laptop screen be the same? Only real difference is customer expectation, i.e. precedent.
 
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Looks to me like what is coming is an M2 which ultimately replace the M1 in the lower end products as well as a beefier version of the M2 with more performance cpu cores, gpu cores and thunderbolt channels as well as support for more RAM which Apple will name something (M2X, M2 Pro, X2... who knows) that will go in higher end Macs (MBPs and probably higher spec iMacs and Mac Minis).
 
I still wonder if we'll see an even/odd entry/pro numbering method, and that there will be x variants but the x will denote that the system has multiple SOC packages on the logic board? Perhaps just as BTO options for the pro level Macs?

This year entry in M1 and Pro is M2, next year M3 entry, M4 pro, etc...

M1x* and M2x* could denote multiple M-SOC packages on the logic board? A future BTO iMac could allow for a M1x2 config? Future Mac Pros could have BTO options for M2x4? Etc...

Probably wrong, but would make life easier for consumers to decode just what is in each Mac moving forward?
 
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Pretty soon they will drop the "Inc" and just be Apple.
I thought they might go with Big Apple but NY already has that taken. So I'm thinking they want to go full-on minimalism and just use "A" as the brand, or go the way Prince did and just use the apple logo and forget the name.
 
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They have already done it. The iPad Air got the A14 chip before the iPad Pro. The MBA got the M1 chip before new MBPs. This seems to be the way Apple are going now. Non pro first then pro models later with an X version of the same chip.
The consumer market is so much larger than the pro market I can see where this might make sense. Sales of the mid-tier products could really suffer though. Picking between a pricier M1X MBP and cheaper M2 MBA will be a tough call for users who want performance, but don't need more than one external display.

My guess is Apple will launch the M2's as a fairly expensive upgrade option to the MBA and 24" iMac. That way the M1 is still available as a budget option, and the M1X products won't look ridiculously overpriced compared an M2 device.
 
Why the crap is Apple de-branding its stuff? First the iMacs and now the Macbooks? Don't they know seeing the words "Macbook Pro" especially when they show up in movies and such is great advertising?
But, if the bezel is almost completely gone, they’d end up printing the worlds uncomfortably small :)
 
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