Shame on you Apple !

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by raynold2010, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. raynold2010 macrumors member

    Aug 18, 2010
    Sorry if there's a thread on that already, but 5 hours of battery for the 11 inch model is just plain terrible.

    I was expecting something that could be a real contender to Asus EEE PC 1005 PEM (update) : 8 hours of battery life.

    Of course, it's not thin ! But what is more important for you when you buy a laptop ???

    For Christ sakes, what's wrong with you Apple ? I'm a big fan, but spending 1000 dollars on such a limited computer, just for the sake of looks ??? And when your battery dies, you can't just replace it yourself. Give me a break.

    I'm really, really disappointed in Apple's strategy.

    (Sent from my iMac)
  2. HardLuckStories macrumors regular

    Oct 23, 2010
    UK, Manchester
  3. Dammit Cubs macrumors 68000

    Dammit Cubs

    Jul 31, 2007
    You do realize it only has 5 hours because it's smaller. Because battery capacity is usually related to the size and thickness of the device.

    You seriously arguing that a pint of milk can't store a gallon?!!. Did I just hear this right? You're complaining and starting a thread about this because you're trying to figure out why a 30MPG car with 1 gallon tank only goes....30 miles?

    we are doomed.
  4. spamboxnet macrumors member

    Oct 20, 2010
    It is not limited at all. In fact, it is the single greatest computer I have ever owned, or have even used, or even seen before.

    There is simply no room for battery space in the 11, and you think it's all just for looks??? haha
    and... what is wrong with 5 hours battery life?

    Apple created an ultra portable that people have been asking for, at a price point that anyone wanting an ultraportable can afford. Shame on you for being a whinny loser
  5. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    Let's see, the EeePC 1005PE you say ?

    - 1024x600 screen resolution.
    - Intel Atom N450
    - 1GB DDR2 ram, 2GB maximum.
    - No indication of graphics, so Intel it is.

    Just with these specs, we can see this is not a MBA competitor. Not even close.

    It's also 5 hours because it's driving a bigger screen with more pixels, a much more powerful CPU and more RAM on top of fitting all of those in a smaller, lighter package.

    Seriously, if you can compromise on those specs, then yes, go with the Asus with more battery life.
  6. iPhysicist macrumors 65816


    Nov 9, 2009
    Shame on you Apple!

    Shame on you Apple for everything...

    Shame on you Apple for the gorgeous display
    Shame on you Apple to provide us a real CPU
    Shame on you Apple to let us upgrade to 4GB or Ram
    Shame on you Apple for the 320m

    Shame on you Apple for everything...

    ...that does not fit in the dream of a teenager

    SHAME on you Apple!
    Shame on YOU Apple!
    Shame ON you Apple!
    Shame on you APPLE!

    APPLE! you've done everything right!
  7. jclardy macrumors 68040


    Oct 6, 2008
    You call the MBA limited but you show us the Asus eee PC? Yeah it has great battery life because it has a garbage processor. Have you ever used an Atom processor?

    I have (in my Acer netbook) and paired with the Intel GMA graphics it has in it you will barely be able to play flash video full screen. I am not talking about HD flash video, just plain SD video in fullscreen because the graphics chip can't keep up, even with it's worse than iPad screen resolution.

    Plus the MBA has an SSD which will lightyears faster than the 5400 (Possibly 4200) RPM HDD in that netbook. If you just want something small to browse the web with long battery life than you should be fine with that Asus. If you want a machine that could be used for actual work then you need something better which the MacBook Air is.

    Not to mention the fact that the Asus underclocks the already spectacularly slow single core Atom to increase the battery life. Plus a smaller keyboard and a tiny trackpad.

    There are some ultraportables that give better performance for the money but you are going to have to look at something more expensive than a netbook with an atom.
  8. wisty macrumors regular

    Feb 18, 2009
    The iPad gets 10 hours batter life, and it has similar specs to the Asus. And it's pretty cheap. Why don't you compare apples to apples?
  9. Lone Deranger macrumors 68000

    Lone Deranger

    Apr 23, 2006
    Tokyo, Japan
    Hahaha... that's an excellent analogy. Well spoken :D
  10. yegon macrumors 68030

    Oct 20, 2007

    Not got my 11" yet, but I'd like to know how much battery life people are getting with real usage - is it truly 5hrs with average use i.e wifi on, a few hrs of random browsing, say an hour or so of video/audio? I'm hopeful it is given how much emphasis Jobs place on their new battery tests. Note, I don't plan on doing anything too stressful on it, using it only for the above purposes.

    My incoming 11" will eventually replace my iPad you see, the battery of which I rarely see dip below 50% between charges. As such, a 5hr batt life on the MBA, half of the iPad's, shouldn't be a problem for me.
  11. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
    This is a quote from the OP's supporting link. The emphasis is mine, and is also the problem with the OP's premise.
  12. ReallyBigFeet macrumors 68030


    Apr 15, 2010
    This is one of the primary reasons I chose the 13" over the 11" MBA Netbook. I've become so accustomed to 5+ hours on my full-size MBP that to settle for anything less seems uncivilized.

    The 11" just has far too many compromises for my use.
  13. falconeight Guest


    Apr 6, 2010
    It last more than 5 hours apple is very modest with its numbers.
  14. Doc750 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 11, 2010
    Shame on you for making a post like this, on this forum. You should know better.

    These fanboys will eat you alive.
  15. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I guess apple should have consulted the OP before designing the MBA, clearly he has more intimate knowledge in what consumers want then Jobs and Ives :rolleyes:

    I'm not a fan of the 13" MBA, but the 11" is drawing my interest as a secondary computer. If the specs of the MBA doesn't suit the OP's needs, then move on. Apple isn't about satisfying the need of every single consumer on the planet - its impossible. Clearly given the posting, many people are very impressed.
  16. AppleGoddess macrumors 6502a


    Sep 30, 2010
  17. bowlerman625 macrumors 68020


    Jun 17, 2009
    Chicago, IL area
    Very nice!! I can't wait to get my CTO order this week!!!! Yea!!
  18. raynold2010 thread starter macrumors member

    Aug 18, 2010
    Fanboys to the rescue.

    Wow, shame on me. That gallon of milk stuff says a lot about your priorities. Who wants a shiny pretty computer to show off at Starbucks? :D

    Now, who's REALLY using a notebook all the time ? Students. On a campus, 5 hours of battery life is just laughable.

    Double that, Apple, and I'll be a happy customer. We need a day-long battery, that's not so difficult to understand.

    And I'm not going Asus, because it's Windows. And not iPad, because I need a keyboard constantly.
  19. AppleGoddess macrumors 6502a


    Sep 30, 2010
    I use this as my home computer I don't need a large desktop or even a MBP I lived with only the ipad Since April 6, I Love it and might get another if I decide too.
    But for now this is perfect if you don't like it the get a PC.

    Maybe you have MBA Envy?
  20. Hankster macrumors 68020


    Jan 30, 2008
    Washington DC
    You have no concept of limitations or design. I have the high end HP Mini 5202 netbook ($800) and it has a 8 hour batter life. But, it's literally 2x thicker than the MBA 11" and about 3x heavier.

    I didn't care for the original MBA, but the new MBA 11" is an excellent device. I'm already gearing up to get it and selling both my MB and HP netbook.

    There are limitations to technology.
  21. czeluff macrumors 6502

    Oct 23, 2006

    So did you decide to write off the posts above as "fanboys" and not READ the information regarding the Atom processors? They're terrible - I have to use one at work constantly :/

    Other things students want that you're ignoring:

    1. a full-size keyboard. You know, for typing. The ASUS doesn't give you gives you the same keyboard as the iPad basically.

    2. reliability with their storage. The last thing a student wants is a hard drive to crash. No need to worry about that here.

    3. a good gpu isn't much to ask - that Intel one wouldn't run Flash fullscreen.

    It'd be interesting to see HOW they're getting 10 hrs of battery life on the ASUS. Apple's 11.6" gets a REAL-WORLD 5hrs based on the new tests. What was the ASUS unit doing? He says he's getting 12 hours "in a pinch". What does that even mean - leaving the screen on and leaving the machine idle?!

    A PC with 1gb of memory and a Mac with 2gb cannot even be compared.

    So if you want better battery while getting closer to 10 hours of battery life, maybe you should be looking at a 13" Macbook Pro. Or at least the next update of it.

    Or just do a Hackintosh with that ASUS unit and be happy. Don't think we'll miss the whines and trolls ;)
  22. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    In regards to students need long battery life, I can only say that with my experience as a student, I do like long battery life, but most classes only last around an hour. And study sessions take place in libraries/study rooms where wall outlets are plentiful. So issues relating to power aren't huge. Also many PC laptops don't have near the battery life Apple notebooks do.

    I'm not saying more battery life would hurt, I'd love it. But I don't think its a make or break deal for many users.

    (I'm coming from a MBP with 8 hours reported battery life, real world usage changed from day to day)
  23. rockyroad55 macrumors 601


    Jul 14, 2010
    Phila, PA
    Where are you going to be, as a student, in the building for 5 hours where there is no wall plug? Just saying. My college has tons of wall plugs everywhere, sooo....
  24. CaoCao macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2010
    You do realize that doing anything on that is like eating an elephant, one byte at a time right?
    It has a single core! and clock for clock the Atom is slower than a Pentium M!
    The MBA 11 has 4x the CPU power and 6x the GPU...
    Now really, which one is limited again?
    What exactly can you do with 1GB RAM?
    MBA has 4xCPU and 6xGPU power
    :eek: typical Apple
    You really don't have any outlet access for five hours?

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