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Please share your iPhone 8 Plus portrait mode and portrait lighting photos.
 

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my two boys at the beach the other day
 

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Alexander.Of.Oz

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Using a friend as a guinea pig for the Portrait Mode. I'm disappointed how it loses all the fine details to the subjects extremities. Look at the missing hair in the after shot.

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And with our pooch, the same exact problem, where his fine hairs are chopped off and in sections it now looks like he has dirt in his fur.

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Call me unimpressed! :(
 

narr

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My daughter Lotti. :)
[doublepost=1506857072][/doublepost]Stage Light Mono. Portrait of my girlfriend‘s shoe.

And a damn fine cup of coffee.
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narr

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Is that using just the default photo app and the "portrait" effect?

Yes, but I chose a filter afterwards within the photo app and then did some finetuning (contrast/shadows/etc.). Took me only some seconds, though.
 

mattopotamus

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Yes, but I chose a filter afterwards within the photo app and then did some finetuning (contrast/shadows/etc.). Took me only some seconds, though.

looks great. That is what I usually do, choose a filter after the fact. Even on the new phone's 8/8+ I found it better to take the portrait photo and then enable the studio lighting, etc.
 
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Using a friend as a guinea pig for the Portrait Mode. I'm disappointed how it loses all the fine details to the subjects extremities.


And with our pooch, the same exact problem, where his fine hairs are chopped off and in sections it now looks like he has dirt in his fur.


Call me unimpressed! :(
Oh wow, that is a really strange thing it did to your dog's fur. Like there's mud.
 
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Alexander.Of.Oz

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View attachment 722663 My old headphones (stage light fx). Some slight blurring on the edges, but that can easily be fixed in PS, still looks quite cool for a quick snap, I think. :)
The point is that the 99% don't have PS, and don't want to have to apply edits to their images, they want it to just work as advertised.

Me, I'll happily stick to using my DSLR and PS. ;)
 

narr

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Working as advertised? Well, that‘s an illusion for the moment. That‘s like saying you are expecting the standard camera to snap beautiful photos out of the box. Focus wrong? Alignment wrong? Overblown highlights? Doesn‘t work like advertised. The sample photos on Apple‘s website look perfect, so why don‘t my photos look like that?
 
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jabingla2810

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Working as advertised? Well, that‘s an illusion for the moment. That‘s like saying you are expecting the standard camera to snap beautiful photos out of the box. Focus wrong? Alignment wrong? Overblown highlights? Doesn‘t work like advertised. The samples photos on Apple‘s website look perfect, so why don‘t my photos look like that?
The camera doesn't make the photograph, the photographer does.
 

iSayBoourns

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Using a friend as a guinea pig for the Portrait Mode. I'm disappointed how it loses all the fine details to the subjects extremities. Look at the missing hair in the after shot.

Before:
i-f8wWJgf-X3.jpg


After:
i-T8dQznS-X3.jpg


And with our pooch, the same exact problem, where his fine hairs are chopped off and in sections it now looks like he has dirt in his fur.

Before:
i-qtnPKFr-X3.jpg


After:
i-n97LJJg-X3.jpg


Call me unimpressed! :(

If that is unimpressive to you then you will be waiting a long time till it’s “perfect”.

Layer masking hair (which is essentially what it’s doing to separate what it thinks your subject is from the background) is one of the hardest things to do in any photo software. Not even Photoshop after years and years of updates and improvements gets it perfect a lot of the time. You’re using the hardest subject (hair) as your example. The fact iOS can do that good a job in real time, no less, is actually quite impressive.

You’re expecting literal magic. What it’s actually doing is NOT easy.
 

arkitect

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Call me unimpressed! :(
I'm going to agree with you here.

Most — if not all of the shots — look like what you get with a poor selection in Photoshop then with a blur slapped on to the background.
Your dog looks as if it has had an ear cut off… the outline is hard — and your eye doesn't follow the natural furry softness that allows you to fill in the "missing" ear naturally as you do in the first shot.

Same with your friend's loose hair strands. You can see these odd blurred strands… making it look like she's steaming. :)
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Very handsome. :)
 

Alexander.Of.Oz

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Working as advertised? Well, that‘s an illusion for the moment. That‘s like saying you are expecting the standard camera to snap beautiful photos out of the box. Focus wrong? Alignment wrong? Overblown highlights? Doesn‘t work like advertised. The sample photos on Apple‘s website look perfect, so why don‘t my photos look like that?
Next time you may want to actually read all of my response:
Me, I'll happily stick to using my DSLR and PS. ;)

I couldn't care less if it works sort of OK or not. I won't be using it. It's a gimmick at this point in time.

I'll stick to using a third party app that gives you full control of the camera and saves the images as RAW files, thank you very much.

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If that is unimpressive to you then you will be waiting a long time till it’s “perfect”.

Layer masking hair (which is essentially what it’s doing to separate what it thinks your subject is from the background) is one of the hardest things to do in any photo software. Not even Photoshop after years and years of updates and improvements gets it perfect a lot of the time. You’re using the hardest subject (hair) as your example. The fact iOS can do that good a job in real time, no less, is actually quite impressive.

You’re expecting literal magic. What it’s actually doing is NOT easy.

As for PS being hard to select around hairs, no it's not at all. I do it all the time on landscapes and bird images, replacing the backgrounds of them and not losing any fine feather or tree details at all. In fact, there are many methods to achieve your selections around fine details. A quick YouTube search will show you how to do it in a myriad of different techniques. It really wouldn't be that hard to write an algorithm that replicates one or two of these techniques for the Apple development teams.
 
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I'm going to agree with you here.

Most — if not all of the shots — look like what you get with a poor selection in Photoshop then with a blur slapped on to the background.
Your dog looks as if it has had an ear cut off… the outline is hard — and your eye doesn't follow the natural furry softness that allows you to fill in the "missing" ear naturally as you do in the first shot.

Same with your friend's loose hair strands. You can see these odd blurred strands… making it look like she's steaming. :)

Not sure you realize iOS is doing all this stuff in real time. Through camera shake and subjects moving and all. Of course it won’t be perfect and especially on very fine strands of hair. Hair is by far THE hardest thing to mask out. Even if you spend time in photoshop after the image is taken (so a 100% still subject) it often has a hard time with hair and won’t catch each and every stray strand. Can photoshop do it better? Yes, because it’s working on an image already taken, not moving and not in real time.
 
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