Sharing heartbeat is fake

aebloomfield

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Jun 3, 2014
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Has anyone noticed sharing your "heartbeat" is the same generic beat every time. Just to test I sent mine during a workout with a Bpm of 185. The recipient said it felt the same as always. Disappointing
 

Pinksteady

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Has anyone noticed sharing your "heartbeat" is the same generic beat every time. Just to test I sent mine during a workout with a Bpm of 185. The recipient said it felt the same as always. Disappointing
Interesting and indeed disappointing. Makes sense though - it usually takes 10-20 seconds to register my heartbeat from the glance so that wait wouldn't translate very well when trying to send it as a message.
 

BrettDS

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There was another thread about this earlier today. I think the general consensus is that it uses the last heartbeat reading that it got, which could be 10 or 20 minutes old, so if your heart rate recently changed then it may not be accurate.
 

sincere11105

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Oct 22, 2013
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I was thinking about this. I haven't gotten my watch yet. Should be next week. Once I get it, I'm going to share a heartbeat before I even put the watch on
 

Smartdrive

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I was thinking about this. I haven't gotten my watch yet. Should be next week. Once I get it, I'm going to share a heartbeat before I even put the watch on
Let's hope the recipient doesn't think you are dead and call the ambulance on you! :eek:
 

aebloomfield

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Jun 3, 2014
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I sent it 30 minutes into my workout with a polar strap on my chest sending heartrate to apple watch. Sad this feature is bs
 

brazzam

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I sent it 30 minutes into my workout with a polar strap on my chest sending heartrate to apple watch. Sad this feature is bs
I highly doubt the heartbeat being sent is being derived from your chest strap. Third party data is just sent to HealthKit, not to the watch. The watch is using the beat it senses on its own sensors, I'd bet.

Also, as we have seen people who experienced variations in the heartbeat, it's most likely not completely BS - it might just not be as real-time as Apple makes it seem.

One piece of anecdotal evidence does not prove a point.
 

deadworlds

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I don't think this feature is fake, however like someone mentioned, in the other thread people had said they had sent heartbeats with different bpm. The OP mentioned he sent his 30 moinutes into the workout, where you using the activity app?

^what he said
 

aven8068

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Apr 7, 2015
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I have tried this after a workout with 2 different watches and the haptic on the receiving watch was definitely elevated more so then when my heart was at a resting rate.

Like someone else said I think it just grabs your last reading and uses that, which could be as old as 10-20 mins.
 

aebloomfield

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Jun 3, 2014
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I highly doubt the heartbeat being sent is being derived from your chest strap. Third party data is just sent to HealthKit, not to the watch. The watch is using the beat it senses on its own sensors, I'd bet.

Also, as we have seen people who experienced variations in the heartbeat, it's most likely not completely BS - it might just not be as real-time as Apple makes it seem.

One piece of anecdotal evidence does not prove a point.
I'll try again next workout. The chest strap sends realtime heartrate to the watch the full workout. The entire time I get a live view of my heartrate in the workout app, it never has to record it every time I look like the first time I worked out without the chest strap.
 

ricktat

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Sending your heart beat is pointless. Apple making this silly idea up would be really bad.
 

David R

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A couple days ago I sent my heartbeat during a work out (I was running the Activity app at the same time) and the bpm were indeed noticeable faster. So it's not always the same, but it could simply be a simulation based on your last bpm reading as others have suggested.
 

kupkakez

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A couple days ago I sent my heartbeat during a work out (I was running the Activity app at the same time) and the bpm were indeed noticeable faster. So it's not always the same, but it could simply be a simulation based on your last bpm reading as others have suggested.
This is what I think. I've sent the heartbeat and received it to someone else and they appeared different.
 

samiznaetekto

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When I read "sharing heatbeat" I imagine sharing an actual heartbeat sound as heard through a stethoscope and an EKG graph animation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJpT_wHZeF8



Something detailed, unique. Sending just a couple of "bzzzzt" vibrator jolts is not it. You could just press one of the predefined "70bpm", "100bpm", "150bpm" buttons and result will be the same. The recipient cannot verify it anyway.

100% gimmick. Can't believe people are falling for this ****.

This would never have happened if Steve Jobs was alive.
 

deadworlds

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I for one can't wait to send my other half my heart beat, maybe while they are at work or something. A subtle way of saying "hey I'm thinking of you". Perhaps this is somewhat what apple hoped to achieve with this feature?
 

ZombiePete

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100% gimmick. Can't believe people are falling for this ****.

This would never have happened if Steve Jobs was alive.
I agree it's a gimmick, but good grief...don't you think you might be overreacting a smidge? What are people "falling for" pray tell?

And invoking Steve Jobs to boot. C'mon man.

Yeah, it's kind of a silly and pointless feature. So what?

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I for one can't wait to send my other half my heart beat, maybe while they are at work or something. A subtle way of saying "hey I'm thinking of you". Perhaps this is somewhat what apple hoped to achieve with this feature?
Well, there you have it. My wife is pretty insistent that she doesn't want a Watch so I will probably never use this, but if someone likes it then no harm no foul.
 

zmunkz

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Nov 4, 2007
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Sending your heart beat is pointless. Apple making this silly idea up would be really bad.
Yeah this is funny... most useless feature I have ever seen... and it doesn't even work?

Honestly during the keynote I just stared when he talked about that... and in their little video they make it sound all personal and impressive. It is like cook had the idea and nobody had the courage to tell them it was stupid, so they are all just playing along now.
 

Tsuchiya

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Jun 7, 2008
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On Apple.com they say this about sharing your heartbeat:

When you press two fingers on the screen, the built-in heart rate sensor records and sends your heartbeat. It’s a simple and intimate way to tell someone how you feel.
If this isn't the case, surely Apple would have to be held to account.
 

Hexcruncher

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Aug 5, 2014
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I have removed the watch to test the heartbeat sensor on day 1 because i thought it would be cool to see the LED's on the back of the watch light up. When using the feature to send a heartbeat they didn't light up once, however when using the heart rate glance they did.

Its a bit strange that it does seem to take from the last heartbeat reading, must be a battery concern that if people were to do this constantly it would lower battery life, that or the sensor cannot detect the heart rate as quickly as they would have liked it to so they use previous data, no one wants to be standing around for 10 seconds waiting to send a message.
 

wepiii

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Sep 22, 2012
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I'll try again next workout. The chest strap sends realtime heartrate to the watch the full workout. The entire time I get a live view of my heartrate in the workout app, it never has to record it every time I look like the first time I worked out without the chest strap.

I get that without a chest strap. You don't need the chest strap, it's not doing anything for you and isn't communicating your heart rate to your watch. Maybe to your phone, but not your watch.
 

MH01

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I highly doubt the heartbeat being sent is being derived from your chest strap. Third party data is just sent to HealthKit, not to the watch. The watch is using the beat it senses on its own sensors, I'd bet.

Also, as we have seen people who experienced variations in the heartbeat, it's most likely not completely BS - it might just not be as real-time as Apple makes it seem.

One piece of anecdotal evidence does not prove a point.
I suspect people will believe they are sending their current heartbeat. Also I suspect someone might send a heartbreak when they are in a situation where they feel their heart pumping faster etc, so not to have that recorded and sent as a representation of their feelings at the time is kinda BS, or should I say creative marketing.

So is there something wrong with suddenly feeling excited about your partner, your heart racing, texting them about how much your heart is pumping, for them to receive a resting heart rate..... Yeah, it's BS in my books.

Thank fully this is just a software fix away to improve the accuracy. have the apple disable the send functionality , till the current HR is taken.

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Has anyone noticed sharing your "heartbeat" is the same generic beat every time. Just to test I sent mine during a workout with a Bpm of 185. The recipient said it felt the same as always. Disappointing
It's not fake, it's just not realtime as you would expect. I thought it was realtime from the presentations etc

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When I read "sharing heatbeat" I imagine sharing an actual heartbeat sound as heard through a stethoscope and an EKG graph animation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJpT_wHZeF8

Image

Something detailed, unique. Sending just a couple of "bzzzzt" vibrator jolts is not it. You could just press one of the predefined "70bpm", "100bpm", "150bpm" buttons and result will be the same. The recipient cannot verify it anyway.

100% gimmick. Can't believe people are falling for this ****.

This would never have happened if Steve Jobs was alive.
That's an interesting point.
 
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