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Sharp Begins Mass Production of Retina-Resolution IGZO Displays
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Yes, but I was serious in as much as that was what the poster who said he'd never buy anything made in Fukushima meant.
There have been several rumours that Apple will be using Sharp's IGZO screens, and more rumours that Apple will be introducing screens capable of supporting the HiDPI display modes present in OS X.
Now we have a story of Sharp mass-producing screens capable of HiDPI pixel density using IGZO. Linking the rumours seems reasonable.
Even if these screens are not to be used by Apple, the fact that mass-production of screens with the required pixel density is happening shows that supporting HiDPI is possible in volume.
Don't get too optimistic about the battery life because the screen of a device is a separate entity to the computer itself. Powering such a high resolution display require serious muscle power, especially if you run software and games at native resolution.
That is the biggest nemesis, graphical power. It craves power, can be noisy and hot!
That is the biggest nemesis, graphical power. It craves power, can be noisy and hot!
I was about to say the same thing.
If you rely on accurate colour for a living, that sort of money is nothing. I still remember the days when a 21" CRT alone would set you back over $3000. Now I have a beautiful flat 30" display (matte of course!), an i1 display device to calibrate it, and Adobe CS colour management. The result is that the colours I see on screen are really pretty accurate, and for a fraction of the money it cost us in the old days.
I wonder how 72 or 96PPI apps will be upscaled. Detail will be lost, or rather menu icons would look blurry (and will it be a big issue). Blurry for non-complying apps (e.g. Photoshop 5.5) - native support wouldn't be an issue, obviously.
Especially if color gamut and shadow detail are improved (the TN panels used are surprisingly good at head-on viewing but are still TNs), then it might be a very well-received upgrade...
What is this garble ? If it is crisper then the resolution is not the same. Learn a little before having opinions.
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Probably the same price as before or lower if experience is any guide.
In and of itself, retina display macs would be pretty cool, but I don't think it would be as impressive (or "revolutionary") as the retina displays on the iPhones and iPads. I say this partly because I don't really notice the pixels on my iMac or MBP at normal viewing distances (while I DO notice the pixels on my non-retina iPad).
That being said, the macbook pro's could ALL use a resolution bump. the 13" resolution is terrible (it looks fine, for me anyways, but it provides very little real estate for windows and content when I'm doing work), and the fact that you have to do a paid upgrade for 1080 on the bigger ones is just annoying. I think a resolution bump on the laptops is long overdue.
Of course, I suppose a retina display would alleviate that problem...
That being said, the macbook pro's could ALL use a resolution bump. the 13" resolution is terrible (it looks fine, for me anyways, but it provides very little real estate for windows and content when I'm doing work), and the fact that you have to do a paid upgrade for 1080 on the bigger ones is just annoying. I think a resolution bump on the laptops is long overdue.
Of course, I suppose a retina display would alleviate that problem...
I really with Sharp would have been able to get these displays read in time for the iPad. I love my iPad, but having all of this tech with a smaller battery would be cool too. Hopefully, the MacBook Pro will give us a great preview of what to expect in the future of Apple.
I wonder if they will do a silent update to put an IGZO screen in the iPad? I doubt it, probably wait for the next version. They probably have contracts in place already for screens until the next one is due.
It actually wouldn't. A 13" Macbook display would just be 1280x800 (HiDPI)...the layout would remain the same.
one thing only what i hate about my MBP is the screen, same goes to iphone, the graphics and sharpness is fantastic, but im blind soon
The first Apple device to have these screens
Iphone5.
It will ship with A5X processor, LTE, 1Gig Ram, same case dimensions, and IGZO screen. It will be named the iPhone 4x, and will deprecate the 4. the 4s will become 99 with 2 year contract. 3gs will be free. Battery life will be extended, about 30%. There will not be a new dock port.
The problem for the laptops is the Intel Cycle, the Panel Cycle, and the Apple Cycle not meshing well. There is an extremely good chance that the panels will not make it into this upgrade cycle. OR this apple cycle will be pushed off for a fall, post start of school release. Mountain Lion, HDdpi, Ivy Bridge, HD4000 all coming together for late school/christmas 2012. This makes for a bad middle part of the year, which is bad for Apple.
Which is why I expect the phones to be released sooner than later. With June being more likely than the later dates that have been mentioned around here. So the OSX and iPhone 4x don't step on each others toes.
Just to prove that I am full of crap. There is about a 100% chance there will be NOTHING that looks like a "TV" coming out from apple this year. It's going to simply be a coordination of iCloud, I tunes, Apple TV, IOS devices, Apple Express, and your Time Capsule as one cohesive whole, it will also be open to Hulu+, Netflix, and probably to direct network rebroadcast as well, either free, or through subscription in iTunes, as a wholesale replacement of DVR and Cable as we know it. This is "cracking the code", not a TV set. It is this holistic change to "what I want on the tv screen, when I want it", at the quality that I want it, plugged into all of my things and tvs and stereos and network, and it plays angry birds too, all going through my A5x powered Apple TV. The design issue is not the TV set, the design issue, is how all the things interact as a whole. And it isn't easy. There is a ton of things to get right. And Apple hasn't gotten them all right yet. It is getting SIRI to turn on my APPLE TV via my phone, or my iPad. It is about being a genius about your stuff. It is about discoverability. It is about socialness. It is about angry birds and Infinity blade. It is about crushing Sony and Microsoft in the home. And you have one chance to change the market place, one chance to make a vital, world changing blow, one more thing. And this will make Apple bloat one more time, as it captures an ever larger group of everyone, and everyone else has to scramble to catch up, again...
Iphone5.
It will ship with A5X processor, LTE, 1Gig Ram, same case dimensions, and IGZO screen. It will be named the iPhone 4x, and will deprecate the 4. the 4s will become 99 with 2 year contract. 3gs will be free. Battery life will be extended, about 30%. There will not be a new dock port.
The problem for the laptops is the Intel Cycle, the Panel Cycle, and the Apple Cycle not meshing well. There is an extremely good chance that the panels will not make it into this upgrade cycle. OR this apple cycle will be pushed off for a fall, post start of school release. Mountain Lion, HDdpi, Ivy Bridge, HD4000 all coming together for late school/christmas 2012. This makes for a bad middle part of the year, which is bad for Apple.
Which is why I expect the phones to be released sooner than later. With June being more likely than the later dates that have been mentioned around here. So the OSX and iPhone 4x don't step on each others toes.
Just to prove that I am full of crap. There is about a 100% chance there will be NOTHING that looks like a "TV" coming out from apple this year. It's going to simply be a coordination of iCloud, I tunes, Apple TV, IOS devices, Apple Express, and your Time Capsule as one cohesive whole, it will also be open to Hulu+, Netflix, and probably to direct network rebroadcast as well, either free, or through subscription in iTunes, as a wholesale replacement of DVR and Cable as we know it. This is "cracking the code", not a TV set. It is this holistic change to "what I want on the tv screen, when I want it", at the quality that I want it, plugged into all of my things and tvs and stereos and network, and it plays angry birds too, all going through my A5x powered Apple TV. The design issue is not the TV set, the design issue, is how all the things interact as a whole. And it isn't easy. There is a ton of things to get right. And Apple hasn't gotten them all right yet. It is getting SIRI to turn on my APPLE TV via my phone, or my iPad. It is about being a genius about your stuff. It is about discoverability. It is about socialness. It is about angry birds and Infinity blade. It is about crushing Sony and Microsoft in the home. And you have one chance to change the market place, one chance to make a vital, world changing blow, one more thing. And this will make Apple bloat one more time, as it captures an ever larger group of everyone, and everyone else has to scramble to catch up, again...
I can't really go into detail here, but you get a good 24" display by NEC for about $600, then you get a calibration device, and software like Basiccolor4 (total around $300). It will also calibrate the brightness of the monitor (if you turn your monitor all the way up, your prints will get dark as you are adjusting for a screaming bright display).
Then you need to use canned profiles for papers you use, and involve the printer into the color management (best: let Photoshop handle the colors of the printer).
Google it. There's a lot of info out there, and "photoshop for photographers" by Evening (not a great book, but it's all in there) will tell you how to do it step by step. Total investment: $300 for the software and the measurement puck.
also: if you use cheap ink instead of generic ink from the printer manufacturer - this can lead to considerable color shifts.
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I'd be down with that 3,840 x 2,160 32 inch monitor, just as soon as we get past the initial couple thousand dollar first few generations.
Until that happens I'll be more than happy with a 2-3 16:10 screens.
Until that happens I'll be more than happy with a 2-3 16:10 screens.
Is there any chance that these new screens will be in the upcoming refresh on the iMac, or do you think these screens are further in the future? If so, how far is your guess?
Apple needs to offer Thunderbolt GPU connectivity to run these high resolution. 
First to adapt such technology but no good hardwares to make use of it.
First to adapt such technology but no good hardwares to make use of it.
Me as well, as long as the screen is not a mirror. The bigger the screen, the harder it is to avoid reflections. This would mean the rumoured anti-reflective coating also happening.