Sharp to Begin Retina Display Shipments for New iPad

[oldschool006]

I'm a bit confused by some of the responses. My understanding is that the defective Samsung screens are yellow tinged, and yet there seems to be some who imply that Sharp screens (that have yet to be introduced) have a yellow tint?

 

[cvaldes]

Unless, of course, quality is uneven between suppliers ...

And how much quality variation do you think Apple will allow? A lot? Is Tim Cook a slacker in managing the supply chain?

 

[blackhand1001]

IPS/PLS panels have much more defects than VA panels. A good quality VA panel would actually be better in my opinion. They use less power and have better contrast. I'd personally like to see an S-PVA panel as they had the best view angles of all the VA panels. My 2408wfp is extremely viewable even close to 180 from the side. Also based on apples other buying records of buying binned products (256mb radeon in the mac mini, 512mb radeon in the macbook pro) I wouldn't be suprised if they didn't demand the top binned displays.

I wish S-PVA panels were still sold new in desktop monitors. The replacements aren't nearly as good.

 

[jonstatt]

At the moment there are NO Sharp screens.

Right now there are ONLY Samsung screens.

The problem is the colour temperature varies enormously between these Samsung iPad 3s....Its not just blue or yellow but all the shades inbetween! Every iPad 3 appears to be a bit different.

What the true intention is, I have no idea.

And as for the glue drying. This is nonsense, sorry. It keeps getting repeated over and over on here for every product release. This applied to a certain batch of iPhones a couple of years ago that left the factory so quickly the glue hadn't dried. Most of the iPad 3s were manufactured weeks if not months ago so this is not the issue.

LEDs can change a bit over time and some may improve very slightly or get worse depending on how they age (and yes LEDs do change brightness and colour slightly with age). But if its very yellow, it will always be yellow...sorry.

 

[MacAttacka]

Im doing to be downvoted to death but the iPad 2 was 2nd year into production of a common technology. Thats probably why the screen looks great. The retina is new technology, both the resolution and extra saturation. Apple and their partners were probably prototyping it since the original iPad was in development. Its not beyond my comprehension to appreciate they have a very good but not perfect screen. Mines a little warm looking, nothing too major or disctracting. I can live with it. Some of the others especially the yellow tinted ones look horrible. I huess if you dont like your screen then you can just return it but I think we'll probably have to wait until iPad 4 for the tint to completely go away. If producing a perfect panel was so easy someone other than Apple would have done it by now.

 

[dr Dunkel]

to me the one in the middle seems more "normal" if I can say that.

Exactly, I see two blue and one neutral. But that could be my screen...

 

[thatsmyfish]

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Question regarding notepad. My replacement iPad seems great but in notepad the screen seems to be an uglier yellow blotch with light yellow at TW top and bottom. I find the same on my iPhone. Is that a screen issue or just the normal background?

 

[bushido]

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damn it! i want a samsung panel if i ever get the 3rd upgrade. any way to tell from the serial number?

 

[tigress666]

Well, look on the bright side...customer's can choose from a "cool" Samsung model or "warm"/yellow tint of the Sharp.

Im fine with the Samsung personally

The article states that the ones shipped have yellow tints (some to the point of being defective). The ones shipped are equipped with Samsung[\i] monitors so it seems to me that there is definite worry for yellow screens with the Samsung with Sharp being an unknown since none have them yet. So not sure why you would want samsung if you don't want yellow when they are the ones that are already showing they have an issue with that.

 

[RyanG]

But were all those issues directly because of the panel itself, or the general state of the television?

Panels themselves. Look at reviews of their 2011 line-up.

 

[bushido]

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Question regarding notepad. My replacement iPad seems great but in notepad the screen seems to be an uglier yellow blotch with light yellow at TW top and bottom. I find the same on my iPhone. Is that a screen issue or just the normal background?

lol thats normal and part of the UI on all stock apple apps. its a "fading out" effect. just look at settings for example, it has the same on top, just in blue/greyish

 

[JAT]

Great post and I agree. When we had our plasma TV professionally calibrated, we were told that a lot of TV manufacturers actuallyship their sets with higher color temperatures, emphasizing blues, because on the show floor, cooler lookin displays stood out more to consumer eyes.

Yes. And more than that, panels (regardless of size or tech) do not come perfectly identical. When you calibrate your TV, you can't simply take those numbers and apply them to every unit of the same model. They may be close, but each display really needs its own calibration.

What's needed with some of these iPads is probably the ability to adjust color, color temp, and contrast on these screens. I'm a little shocked I never thought about that, before.

So, I'm looking, and there is at least some work on this on Cydia. None from Apple or the AppStore, of course.

 

[brdeveloper]

Forget it. Some do not understand the concept that Samsung manufactures Apple's Design. Samsung can't put that display in a Galaxy.

Nikon designs their Sensors which are mostly FABED by Sony. The 16MB Sony CMOS is not compatible in a D700 and the same goes for the Nikon in a SLT-A35.

Yep... Samsung will put a 2560x1600 display on its next Galaxy Tab.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Galaxy-Tab-11.6-Retina-Display-ipad-3-tablet,14222.html

Only Apple can use a display with 2048x1536... what advantage!

 

[smaranz]

I bought my new iPad at Radio Shack the day it launched and received a yellow tinted screen version (it seemed normal at the time). When my dad got a new iPad yesterday at the local apple store I happened to have them side by side, and I noticed that mine was noticeably warmer or yellower.

At the time I didn't know if there was a known defect and which one met Apple's design specs. I was comparing the two next to each other to try and decide which one I liked better. It was hard to say, but I almost liked my warmer model.

My biggest consideration is battery life. It seemed that my yellow version was a bit less bright given equal brightness settings. Does that mean that it will be less energy efficient?

I think I will wait on returning it until more details come out.

 

[JAT]

Im doing to be downvoted to death but the iPad 2 was 2nd year into production of a common technology. Thats probably why the screen looks great. The retina is new technology, both the resolution and extra saturation. Apple and their partners were probably prototyping it since the original iPad was in development. Its not beyond my comprehension to appreciate they have a very good but not perfect screen. Mines a little warm looking, nothing too major or disctracting. I can live with it. Some of the others especially the yellow tinted ones look horrible. I huess if you dont like your screen then you can just return it but I think we'll probably have to wait until iPad 4 for the tint to completely go away. If producing a perfect panel was so easy someone other than Apple would have done it by now.

As I mentioned a couple posts above, this is a common issue for many different types of screens, new or not. I doubt very much the "2nd gen" made any difference for the iPad2.

 

[SimonTheSoundMa]

People are SO used to overly hot displays with bright blue torch-cast that when you have a properly calibrated 6500 degree display they think it looks yellow.

I am personally convinced that a lot of 'yellow tinged' display returns were actually the most accurate displays these people had in their life and just didn't realize it because they were so acclimatized to blue-tinted displays.

THAT SAID - some people genuinely did receive defective yellow displays especially on iMacs.

The yellow tinted versions are the better screens from experience.


I have a yellow iPhone 4S. I quickly measured the screen using SprectraCal light meters against a 'normal' iPhone 4. The yellow 4S was closer to D65, and the iPhone 4 had a strange rise is purples curve.

I'm a CEA and CompTIA qualified calibrator, my Fujitsu plasma and Samsung LCDs, along with all my Macs are calibrated. When I ask for people's opinions, sometimes they say they look dull, slightly muddy and somewhat orange. D65 for day, F2 at night.

 

[JAT]

My biggest consideration is battery life. It seemed that my yellow version was a bit less bright given equal brightness settings. Does that mean that it will be less energy efficient?

I would guess No. If the brightness settings match, then the backlight should be at the same power level in each. The tint is from the LCD cells, and possibly the software controlling them.

Of course, there will always be slight fluctuations, you shouldn't expect absolutely identical battery life regardless.

 

[thatsmyfish]

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Question regarding notepad. My replacement iPad seems great but in notepad the screen seems to be an uglier yellow blotch with light yellow at TW top and bottom. I find the same on my iPhone. Is that a screen issue or just the normal background?

lol thats normal and part of the UI on all stock apple apps. its a "fading out" effect. just look at settings for example, it has the same on top, just in blue/greyish

I'm not sure I see what you are referring to in settings? Just for my addled brain, instead of a uniform yellow color for the notepad itself it is light yellow on the top and bottom and an overpowering ugly blob of yellow in the center?

 

[perealb]

Well, look on the bright side...customer's can choose from a "cool" Samsung model or "warm"/yellow tint of the Sharp.

Im fine with the Samsung personally

The article clearly says that the Sharp displays are not out yet. Those are all Samsung displays.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Yep... Samsung will put a 2560x1600 display on its next Galaxy Tab.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Galaxy-Tab-11.6-Retina-Display-ipad-3-tablet,14222.html

Only Apple can use a display with 2048x1536... what advantage!

First that tab isn't even announced with release date or price, not to mention it uses an even bigger display than current Android, making even more questions for app support (i know they'll work, but optimized?)

Second...it's pentile. *shudders* I'm sure it's not as bad as it used to be, but I try stay away from anything pentile, especially on a device where reading text is important.

 

[LimeiBook86]

Not to mention that when this happened to iPhone 4's, it went away after a couple days. It was determined to be an artifact of getting them from the assembly line into customer hands so fast that the adhesive hadn't fully cured yet.

Yes! This is very true. Did we all forget about this so soon?

I believe it was due to the seal / glue from the display to the glass. They were shipping them so fast to customers that they didn't have time for the tint to naturally fade away. So the color would remain, but it did go away in time.

So don't get upset, wait a little bit and it should be fine. Worse case is it doesn't fix itself and Apple swaps it out.

 

[geauxmac]

I got a 32gb 4g white one, and the top 1/3 of the screen had a yellow tint to it. Brought it to my local Apple Store in New Orleans, they took a look at it and said that it was unacceptable for it to look like that and replaced it for me. My new one looks just fine an mathes the tint of an iPad 2 that was placed next to it, only the new iPad's screen looks so much better and more vibrant of course!

 

[makeway]

Is there some reason Apple cannot provide color settings for their iPad screens, just as Samsung provides color setting for their TV screens?

 

[jonstatt]

Yes! This is very true. Did we all forget about this so soon?

I believe it was due to the seal / glue from the display to the glass. They were shipping them so fast to customers that they didn't have time for the tint to naturally fade away. So the color would remain, but it did go away in time.

So don't get upset, wait a little bit and it should be fine. Worse case is it doesn't fix itself and Apple swaps it out.

No and no....because ones made in January have this problem. They would have dried out by now! This was an isolated issue with a single batch of iPhones...never repeated it again with any other product.

 

[UK-MacAddict]

Why are Apple incapable of producing a product without a yellow screen lately?

I've had to return Thunderbolt displays, iMacs, MacBooks Pros, iPhone and iPads numerous times before getting one with a non yellow display.