I've seen several people cite a delivery date, yet on my order all I see is an "Available to Ship" date of January. Am I missing something?
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Shipping Estimates for Mac Pro Online Orders Slip to February 2014
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I've seen several people cite a delivery date, yet on my order all I see is an "Available to Ship" date of January. Am I missing something?
what time did you order? It could be that dated shipments are based on orders that came in at a particular time- I would assume that your order was placed after the confirmed allocated shipments ran out (if that makes sense). I meant to order mine at 3am EST since Cupertino is PST. I figured better get it early- but I overslept and woke up at 7am- ordered it as fast as I could in case the site had or would have issues (paranoid much?? LOL). As of now my only email confirmation is that its being processed and has a Jan. 6 ship date as indicated by my shipping method (standard free) I don't know how much sooner express shipping would have been- Anyone get an earlier date than Jan 6. ?
One noteworthy thing about the new Mac Pro... It uses 450w of peak power for a 12-core system and dual workstation GPUs.
By comparison, my Dell uses 1500w for a very similar system (2 socket, 6 cores per socket, 64GB Memory, Dual Quatro K5000 GPUs (4GB), 4 striped 250GB SSDs).
The power costs for that workstation per year is $1,472.69.
The Mac Pro specced comparably per year is $441.81.
That is a savings of $1,030.88 / year.
Also of note, I paid 11,016 + tax and shipping for that system in February.
I checked the price on a new Dell and same performance would now come in at 10,316.90 + tax and shipping.
The Mac Pro is over a thousand cheaper, has slightly higher performance, better GPUs (expected considering that we are +1 year), and uses 1/3 the power.
Should I be buying right now, I'd go for the Mac Pro as the operating costs are 1/3 that of it's competitor.
By comparison, my Dell uses 1500w for a very similar system (2 socket, 6 cores per socket, 64GB Memory, Dual Quatro K5000 GPUs (4GB), 4 striped 250GB SSDs).
The power costs for that workstation per year is $1,472.69.
The Mac Pro specced comparably per year is $441.81.
That is a savings of $1,030.88 / year.
Also of note, I paid 11,016 + tax and shipping for that system in February.
I checked the price on a new Dell and same performance would now come in at 10,316.90 + tax and shipping.
The Mac Pro is over a thousand cheaper, has slightly higher performance, better GPUs (expected considering that we are +1 year), and uses 1/3 the power.
Should I be buying right now, I'd go for the Mac Pro as the operating costs are 1/3 that of it's competitor.
For those trying to figure out how to make this purchase count as a tax write off for 2013, PowerMax.com seems to be taking orders for the new Mac Pro.
Since PowerMax usually charges your card once you place your order (unlike Apple.. They charge your card once your order ships), you would be able to write the purchase off for 2013.
Since PowerMax usually charges your card once you place your order (unlike Apple.. They charge your card once your order ships), you would be able to write the purchase off for 2013.
No. When I first put a Mac Pro in my cart last night, it said it was available for store pickup on December 30. But any BTO changes pushed this to January. So only bone-stock units, and I guess only a few, were available in December.
Around 3:30AM Eastern US time, the very instant the site came online.
ETA: Something just occurred to me: are these delivery dates for store pickup? I don't have an Apple store nearby so I had them ship it directly to my address.
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Mac Pro Tax Bracket
You can still buy the Mac Pro this year and apply it to this year's taxes. I'm not a tax lawyer, but the deduction is taken when the purchase was made, not when the product is received or the check or credit card is put through the bank.
It's the same as when you write and send checks to charities on Dec 31. You get the deduction for that year, not the next year when the check is received and cashed.
You should probably talk to your accountant if you really want this machine for this year's taxes.
You can still buy the Mac Pro this year and apply it to this year's taxes. I'm not a tax lawyer, but the deduction is taken when the purchase was made, not when the product is received or the check or credit card is put through the bank.
It's the same as when you write and send checks to charities on Dec 31. You get the deduction for that year, not the next year when the check is received and cashed.
You should probably talk to your accountant if you really want this machine for this year's taxes.
Tooling processes cost millions upon millions of dollars.
Apple just this year spent over a billion dollars in tooling their production partners. This kind of thing costs far more than the construction of the buildings that manufacture devices.
March shipping? What? What a joke. I've never understood why products are announced as "available" when they are not available? How could they explain this as "unexpected" demand? What? A product that has not been updated in years. The update announced months ago for December, and when December comes they product is available but wait, no, not really, they don't have enough.
Kind of frustrating, though Apple is not alone on this. Ask Sony where the PS4s are, and Microsoft where the Xbox Ones are, or Nintendo where the Wiis are a few years back. Intentional or justified, it's just terrible from the customer's perspective.
Kind of frustrating, though Apple is not alone on this. Ask Sony where the PS4s are, and Microsoft where the Xbox Ones are, or Nintendo where the Wiis are a few years back. Intentional or justified, it's just terrible from the customer's perspective.
Shipping in February looks to be February 28th for a custom config. Ship to and pick up at store is saying "March 5th" and the only way that works is if shipping is the very end of February.
I wonder what demand level is on this - are we seeing very high demand or very low supply? We're not even 24 hours after it went live in the US.
I wonder what demand level is on this - are we seeing very high demand or very low supply? We're not even 24 hours after it went live in the US.
March shipping? What? What a joke. I've never understood why products are announced as "available" when they are not available? How could they explain this as "unexpected" demand? What? A product that has not been updated in years. The update announced months ago for December, and when December comes they product is available but wait, no, not really, they don't have enough.
Kind of frustrating, though Apple is not alone on this. Ask Sony where the PS4s are, and Microsoft where the Xbox Ones are, or Nintendo where the Wiis are a few years back. Intentional or justified, it's just terrible from the customer's perspective.
In stock at nearly every best buy and on amazon
I'm in Canada, but here that would not be true. A computer isn't an expense, it's capital, so the tax benefit is that you can deduct its depreciation from your income. The catch is, you can only get the credit if the device was "available for use" at some point in the year you're claiming it for, regardless of when you actually bought it. So if you can prove that you got the Mac Pro to your house and plugged in by 11 pm on December 31st, you're good. Otherwise it won't have been "available for use" until 2014, meaning you can't deduct the depriciation until you file your taxes in 2015, meaning it will take a whole year to get that sweet sweet tax credit.
This is generally true but in the USA there is a provision of the Internal Revenue Code that allows 100% depreciation in the first year the asset is placed in service. It is known as IRC Section 179 depreciation and a lot of us would REALLY like to take advantage of it this year. Thus the angst about late deliveries for many USA commercial customers for this device.
The reason for the delays in shipping is due to the fact that these are being built in the US. You have to factor in the inexperience of the workers to work the assembly line, 10-minute breaks every 4 hours, 30-min lunch breaks (probably 1 hour), and the 8-hour mandatory work day. No Macs are built after 5pm daily, and definitely, not on weekends. Plus, it's the holidays, so most workers have the next week off.
The buyers should understand that they are treating the people who build theirr machines fair and humane working conditions. Everybody wins.
The buyers should understand that they are treating the people who build theirr machines fair and humane working conditions. Everybody wins.
What's your actual power usage from that Dell, where did you get that power cost figure from? A lot of workstations are overspecced on power supplies allowing for expansion card overhead (I've had FPGAs needing a few hundred extra watts before off the PSU). I don't know about the performance of the new AMD cards but those Quattros are pretty solid cards is the thing.
If you look at amortization of savings properly on a machine that would cost almost as much as a car and have a service life similarly, you should take into consideration the tax deductions on MACRS deductions (I assume you're in the US). When you finally get rid of the thing, what you deducted in the past counts as income... but you can offset it with the acquisition cost of the new machine and the subsequent deductions.
I'm kind of considering one because buying a lot of rackmount machines for a home cloud infrastructure lab is bad for power consumption as well as heat and noise, but when my electricity is $.06 / kWh and among the lowest in the country, the monthly expenditure decrease isn't really worth it much for me.
You lot gearing up for one of these must make your face drop... seriously ...lol
Apple's known to 'slipping" stuff always......
They say "by December" by they never mentioned it would ship by December, just be in available in-store...
May be quicker anyhow. Allot of order online cancellations i think then, and this would probably translate to "allot of long lines"
Apple's known to 'slipping" stuff always......
They say "by December" by they never mentioned it would ship by December, just be in available in-store...
May be quicker anyhow. Allot of order online cancellations i think then, and this would probably translate to "allot of long lines"
I don't know, get them making something else like a shiny new Mac Mini.
They've got $150 Billion in the bank. I doubt a few million (if it that much) will make much of dent. Business customers often can't afford to wait because they have work to do, deadlines to meet, etc. How much revenue will they lose because pissed of pro's simply can't wait and buy something else instead? It's not like you can still buy the old model for now because they took that off sale in the UK about a year ago. That's a long time to wait if you need a pro machine to work on.
^ He's right. It takes an enormous amount of effort, socializing with/endorsing/convincing political candidates, demonstrating in front of the capitol, and rallying JUST TO HOLD THE STATUS QUO.
Your Dell has a 1500W power supply. That doesn't mean it continuously sucks 1500w. At idle your machine probably uses 200w and at max load probably no more than 600.
The other thing is that PC power supplies are most efficient at ~50% capacity. So if your machine maxes out around 750w, a 1500w power supply would be the most efficient (drawing ~800w on the power load instead of say, 950-1000)
Most full tower desktops are equipped with really beefy power supplies to allow for things like quad SLI and/or lots of hard drives.
And how many pro sales have they lost since they discontinued the old Mac Pro? Add in the wait for the new one and they could easily have lost millions in sales through all the delays and confusion.
Isn't it worth spending a bit extra to keep your customers happy? If I ran my business like this I'd have no clients and no business. Apple can get away with it because we all love their products and frustrating delays is just so common with Apple that we take it for granted. But there will come a day when unhappy customers don't come back so readily.
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Is it even available in store? I doubt they'll have them sitting in the stores when customers are waiting for orders to ship. I hope they are in store as i'd really like to see one but I'm not holding my breath that they'll be in store anytime soon sadly.
Probably not yet, but i bet it will be in store before it ships whatever the date will be in February.
If it was in store even a few days, this would be better.
