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"Fair number"? "Vast majority" is more like it. I certainly understand Apple's decision to leverage the huge number of iPhone/iPod apps for the iPad. It was a brilliant marketing move, enabling Apple to claim "hundreds of thousands" of apps for the iPad.

Nevertheless, I find it annoying to find apps that are either pixalated (sp?) on the iPad, fail to work in landscape orientation, or both.

The term is degronskified.

It's easy enough to go into the app store to see which apps play well on both the iPhone and the iPad. You could just have a rule to never buy apps that don't show you iPad screenshots and screenshots in both orientations.

Not arguing for another OS. Heaven help us, we don't need another OS designed specifically for a particular device. But trying to make a single OS that spans the capabilities of different processors and supports apps across a broad range of devices is no mean feat. Microsoft hopes to pull off that trick with Windows 8. Whether they succeed is a still very much an open question.

Android is a whole other can of worms. RIM will be supporting Android apps with the software update for their Playbook. Hopefully they have made a compatible environment for running Android apps. OTOH, there really aren't a lot of PBs out there....

I'm sure that Apple is wrestling with the similar issues.

I thought the pixel-doubling thing was a neat trick. It really encumbers how the capabilities of product lines can be extended, but it gives a very elegant elegant way to leverage existing software.

Does anyone know if they patented that idea?
 
I definitely don't think it should get it's own, entirely new OS. I do think that iOS should be optimized for big screens, though. More icons on the desktop, widgets, ect.
 
I mean it is suppose to be a whole new category. Then why use iOS built for iPhone ... iOS on the iPad is too little functionality . I am not saying we need a full blown OS Lion but somewhere in the middle perhaps?

Thoughts?
Based on all the rumors out there the future that Apple has decided on is one OS based on iOS, across all devices and computers. It's to be aired with the upcoming A6 chip which will also be in many of their laptops.
 
I definitely don't think it should get it's own, entirely new OS. I do think that iOS should be optimized for big screens, though. More icons on the desktop, widgets, ect.

Technically it does let you have more icons. Four more per page, eight more per folder, and two more on the bottom.
 
The term is degronskified.



Does anyone know if they patented that idea?

Hasn't Apple patented all rectangular electronic devices? :rolleyes:

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The term is degronskified.

It's easy enough to go into the app store to see which apps play well on both the iPhone and the iPad. You could just have a rule to never buy apps that don't show you iPad screenshots and screenshots in both orientations.



Android is a whole other can of worms....

Speaking of cans of worms, don't get me started on the atrociously designed search capabilities of iTunes. And frankly, the idea of examining screen shots to determine which apps have actually been designed to work on the iPad versus those that have simply been slapped into the iOS category is, ahem, less than efficient.

Of course, if iTunes actually had a category for *true* iPad apps rather than relying upon the inconsistently used "HD" convention, the huge number of apps designed for the iPad would shrink tremendously.
 
Hasn't Apple patented all rectangular electronic devices? :rolleyes:

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Speaking of cans of worms, don't get me started on the atrociously designed search capabilities of iTunes. And frankly, the idea of examining screen shots to determine which apps have actually been designed to work on the iPad versus those that have simply been slapped into the iOS category is, ahem, less than efficient.

Of course, if iTunes actually had a category for *true* iPad apps rather than relying upon the inconsistently used "HD" convention, the huge number of apps designed for the iPad would shrink tremendously.

"Less than efficient" is a marvelous understatement. :D Follow that philosophy, and as noted, not only would it be a pain in the ass, but you'd be taking a device already handicapped by arbitrary limitations and making it even less useful by eliminating a sizable portion of the App Store apps.

I understand why Apple originally did the pixel doubling trick versus perhaps "retina sizing" apps--they wanted devs to develop specifically for the iPad, and wanted to use the full screen ratio of the iPad versus the narrower ratio of the iPhone. I get it, I really do. But now--some twenty months later, it's pretty obvious that either devs buy into marketing/developing for the iPad, or they don't. Meanwhile, it's the iPad's user base that Apple chooses to penalize by forcing us to frequently choose between pixelated doubled apps that do what we need but are unreadable, a crappy "HD" universal app at twice the price (but at least I can read it!) or no app at all. Or better still from both Apple & the devs' perspective, you can pay twice for the same functionality, once for your phone and once for your iPad (*glares at the MLB AtBat app*) Sorry, but that's just silly when it's not the technology that's holding things back.

And it's a very good reason to jailbreak, because RetinaPad immensely enhances the iPad's viewabilty of those "designed for the iPhone" apps, even if it doesn't fix the landscape issue and even though it uses the narrower ratio. Apps designed for the phone only go from pixelated and annoying to crisp, if a wee bit letterboxed on the long sides. That's a very minor sacrifice that allows me to use useful apps which the devs have in some cases stated flat out are not worth their time to redesign for the iPad.

Sorry, Apple--at this point, that "trick" no longer accomplishes what you intended, and greatly irritates your customers.

As for a separate OS, I don't see what would be accomplished in that. The functionality improvements needed for the iPad would in most cases be just as useful for the iPhone or even iPod Touch. Ask any jailbreaker who has both an iPhone and an iPad--their favorite functional/UI tweaks are probably replicated on both devices. In fact, I think RetinaPad is about the only tweak I use on the iPad that isn't also relevant to the phone. Things like better access to the file system and improved folders are really needed universally in iOS, not just by the physically larger device.
 
If I remember correctly Jobs/Apple admitted at some point that, what we now call iOS, was initially created for the Tablet form factor. It was always limited by the hardware available back then in terms of end product.

The iPhone was an idea that came off the back of it, mid-process.

So, if correct, the OP's question is moot. iOS is Apple's idea of a tablet OS that is also scaled down for the iPhone.
 
Along with another pound of weight? A fan? Diminished battery life? What are you willing to sacrifice?
Panasonic has tablet running the grabagetastic i5 cpu and no fans. Apple could make the same mistake and make a Lion tablet with an x86 cpu, or they can do right move that will make MS and others lose half their shares and go with a proper ARM cpu. Think about it, an 11.6in Apple tablet that runs Lion, has one or two usb ports, a thunderbolt port, and a sweet little quad core ARM cpu. MS who?
 
Panasonic has tablet running the grabagetastic i5 cpu and no fans. Apple could make the same mistake and make a Lion tablet with an x86 cpu, or they can do right move that will make MS and others lose half their shares and go with a proper ARM cpu. Think about it, an 11.6in Apple tablet that runs Lion, has one or two usb ports, a thunderbolt port, and a sweet little quad core ARM cpu. MS who?


We'll see. Been hearing about Apple killing off Microsoft for nearly 40 years. Waiting...waiting...waiting. And from all indications the wait will be about as long for Apple to add a usb port.
 
Overall it should be the same OS as this is essential to avoid issues in software development and also usge fo end user. Though there are already some small differences eg the split screen is only on iPad and available on iPhone; but those are really few and easy to manage in universal apps.
As the screen of the iPhone will grow it will (or is) also a tablet; a specialized one of course

Agreed. You need to have the same OS so that your apps will work on both. But I would definitely like to see a few more Ipad specific features that take advantage of the larger form factor. (e.g., the split keyboard in IOS5). You name a few good ones, I'd add a common file management system
 
i think what would be the best is to have the same os in all the apple devices including mac's .maybe lion is the first amptemp to..
 
We'll see. Been hearing about Apple killing off Microsoft for nearly 40 years. Waiting...waiting...waiting. And from all indications the wait will be about as long for Apple to add a usb port.

That because we haven't seen the ARM based MBA and the fact with PPC architecture we didn't get proper support from IBM. Plus, ARM is proving to be vastly more versatile vs PPC, and superior in the important aspects vs x86.
 
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