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alfon_sico

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Forward my proofs with iOS 10pb2 in my iPad mini 2 I don't feel significant stutter or frame drops

Maybe it's a placebo sense or maybe is because of uncrypted kernel

Make it sense Apple uncrypted 9.3.3 kernel as it will be last version for so many old devices hopefully getting lack of stutters and improving performances?
 

lagwagon

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Highly unlikely to happen for 9.3.3. It's part of iOS 10.

I also wouldn't say "so many devices" for having 9.3.3 as the last OS. iOS 9 to iOS 10 only drops one generation. The A5 devices. The majority can move on with iOS 10. iOS 10 at launch supports 4 generations of devices (if you include the upcoming iPhone 7)

You can't sit on an old device forever and demand new stuff for it. Don't be surprised when iOS 11 goes 64bit only and all 32bit support is dropped. (iOS 10 is already well on the way there)
 

alfon_sico

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So many devices, for sure only one generation: iPad mini, iPad 2, iPad 3 and iPhone 4S but if you sum the number of devices it could be several millions that still works for so many people

If uncrypted kernel optimize the performance of all of them and it will be the last signed iOS for that I'd guess could be great that they can do it
 

lagwagon

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So many devices, for sure only one generation: iPad mini, iPad 2, iPad 3 and iPhone 4S but if you sum the number of devices it could be several millions that still works for so many people

If uncrypted kernel optimize the performance of all of them and it will be the last signed iOS for that I'd guess could be great that they can do it

Apple is gearing up to dump 32bit devices all together soon (can almost guarantee iOS 11 does this.) They probably really aren't too concerned with something they really don't support anymore moving forward. As long as it runs. 9.3.3 is deep in beta and at this point won't magically get an unencrypted kernel. That's an iOS 10 thing, not 9.

Apple supports their phones longer than any other company already. However it's not their fault there are some who hold on to their device for 4-5+ generations. As harsh as it sounds, they are due for an upgrade. Especially if they want newer features. You say millions, but at Apple's scale even millions can be a small percent of the total. Pretty sure more people sit in the A6-A9 (soon to also include A10) generations than there are who sit in the A5.
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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You mention there are devices still using A5. Then can I say I see devices still using iOS 7, iPad mini 2, which does not need to upgrade at all, and kernel is absolutely encrypted?

Device drop is inevitable, as time goes on. And since iOS 9 is approaching its support lifecycle, I too don't expect they will decrypt iOS 9 kernel at this small variation.
 

Yun0

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should apple? sure.. is it worth backporting that work for a ios 9.4? no. will they? no. well, yes, but its called ios 10.
 

boswald

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I assume this pertains to the Cache, otherwise this would be a major security risk*. I'll have to do some more digging because all I've heard about this is just rumors (no pun intended).

*Government surveillance/backdoors
 

6836838

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I assume this pertains to the Cache, otherwise this would be a major security risk*. I'll have to do some more digging because all I've heard about this is just rumors (no pun intended).

*Government surveillance/backdoors
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You are difinitively wrong. Please step out of the class.
 

boswald

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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You are difinitively wrong. Please step out of the class.

I thought so, hence the "digging" part of my post.

Why should I "step out of class" when the purpose is to learn?
 
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