Should I buy a Mac Mini?

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by msjones, Sep 30, 2008.

  1. msjones macrumors 6502

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    Is it worth buying a mac mini for what I use the computer for?

    I currently have a 2.1 MacBook 4GB RAM 250GB HDD. I mainly download from newsgroups, burn DVDS and encode AVI to DVD using VisualHUB. I also have a large music & photo library on an external 1TB drive.

    How would a MacMini cope with the AVI encoding? Would it be worth getting one to use at home or should I save my money and keep with my macbook and get an external monitor an iCurve stand, mighty mouse & keyboard?

    Thanks for any input!

    Edit: I would still keep my macbook as i use this daily at work etc.
     
  2. JAWWC macrumors regular

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    I've just bought a mini and it copes with mp4 encoding brilliantly and I would think it would do everything else you wanted.
    But because of the fact you would have to buy a monitor, keyboard and mouse anyway I would just save your money and use your MacBook hooked up to them.
     
  3. msjones thread starter macrumors 6502

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    hi jawwc

    If i got a mini I would hook it up to the LG Monitor/TV i have on my desk in my room which has the xbox connected also. But if I was to keep the MacBook I would go for the apple cinema display.... because you have too :)

    I use my macbook all day at work, and its on most of the night so I just thought a mini might help balance the strain.
     
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  5. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    why not just get a display and hook up your notebook when youre home? that way you dont have to maintain and sync two computers. your macbook has more power than the mini so just keep that and get a nice display, mouse and keyboard.
     
  6. ADent macrumors 6502a

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    That is a 2.1GHz C2D in the original post?

    If so that is faster than any mini sold and probably very similar in performance to the 2.0 mini. They have the same video outputs (24" aka 1900x1200 max), etc.

    The mini is really last years MacBook in a desktop case - minus the built in LCD screen, keyboard, and trackpad of course.
     
  7. Mr. Giver '94 macrumors 68000

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    I used to have one and it is a great little machine, but I'd hesitate on buying one at this time because it is long overdue for an upgrade/change. If it has what you want, go for it, but if you can wait, then do so. Hope this helps! :)
     
  8. Mr. Giver '94 macrumors 68000

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    That's probably what I'd do if I had a notebook as well.
     
  9. Lord Zedd macrumors 6502a

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    Nobody should buy a Mini right now. The ones being sold now are old, outdated pieces of junk. Wait until they are updated or killed.
     
  10. ADent macrumors 6502a

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    Says a man driving a G4 and G5.

    The current minis are good machines and 90% as fast as the current low end MacBooks.

    Yes they are due for an update, but they are still pretty good machines.
     
  11. Lord Zedd macrumors 6502a

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    Absolutely incorrect on 2 of 3 points.

    1: The mini is NOT a good machine. It has integrated Intel graphics, that alone gives it the POS status. From Apple directly: [​IMG]
    2: Its 90% as fast as the low end macbook because it uses previous generation technology.
    3: They are 14 months old. Apple usually updates the mini and imac line around 200 days, the Mini is lagging a generation behind.

    Yes, I'd much rather have the best PPC Apple ever produced than an old intel Mini.

    The Mini is the worst computer anyone could possibly buy right now.
     
  12. colourclassic macrumors member

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    That's a pretty stupid mentality when you consider that even the current low end Mini will trounce most high end PPC macs.

    In addition consider that most software devs now only write for x86, making your PPC computers even further redundant.
     
  13. Lord Zedd macrumors 6502a

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    Thats just a pretty stupid thing to say considering a G5 can walk all over even the most "powerful" mini when it comes to graphical work.

    In other words, they are lazy bastards since x86 is an extremely antiquated and limited system that should have been abandoned years ago.

    The Mini is the worst value in Apple's lineup.
     
  14. msjones thread starter macrumors 6502

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    thanks for all the input. My new setup as of 15 mins ago is:

    MacBook 2.1GHZ - 4GB - 250GB HDD
    Griffin Elevator
    20" LCD
    2x1TB External HD
    Apple wired keyboard and wireless mighty mouse
    External DVDRW

    So I have bought a new monitor, a stand and another external 1TB (You can never have enough storage). The local apple store loves me :)

    Was cheaper than an iMac. And I didnt go for a cinema display, got one on sale in local tesco.
     
  15. 4fingered macrumors member

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    still don't see why you didn't hook up to you're existing monitor. but hey congrats on the set up, sounds nice
     
  16. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    A bit dated? Yeah, maybe. Junk? Not for the majority of users for which it is targeted.

    Then I guess you think the MacBook is also a POS, too.

    And for most typical use it's completely fine.

    Now that depends on what your intended purpose for the computer is.
     
  17. msjones thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Got the monitor because the one i have is also a tv so i moved it back over to the bottom of the bed with the freeview box and dvd player.

    The setup is fine. It will do till the mini is updated or swapped out for a consumer tower...... any news on this happening?
     
  18. Lord Zedd macrumors 6502a

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    Indeed.
     
  19. iGrant macrumors 6502a

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    I have loved the PPC architecture for years. I was a big fan of the G4 when it came out and was amazed at the speed of that machine. I still have my G4 450Mhz Cube. Amazing computer in its day.

    I also have a Power Mac Dual 1.8Ghz G5 and a G4 Mac Mini that both run flawlessly.

    However I also have a Revision A Macbook with a Core Duo 2.0Ghz that will out run my Power Mac Dual G5 all day long. I also now have a Mac Mini Core Solo that I have being using along side my G4 Mac Mini, and its darn near triple the speed on everthing minus video, the G4 has a dedicated video where as the Intel doesn't.

    I personally still wish that Apple had stayed with the PPC architecture, hahah we would have Power Mac G6 right now that would be clocked at 6Ghz with multiple cores!!! I'm not joking look at IBM's Power6 cpu.

    However that being said, I love how inexpensive the Intel Macs are and how easy they are to upgrade. You can not even upgrade the G4 Mac Mini or the Power Mac G5s period.

    My Mac Mini Core Solo 1.5Ghz is getting an upgrade next week. I just bought a Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz T2300 on eBay with shipping for 37 bucks. I have done a number of Newer Technology and my personal favorite Sonnet Tech CPU upgrades for the G4 Power Macs. I miss my G4 Digital Audio that I upgraded to a 1.6Ghz Sonnet CPU, that computer was a tank. However I spent 400 bucks on the cpu.

    PPC is a nice architecture for sure, but Intel was a good decision on Apples part. They are faster, use less power and are cheaper to upgrade. I will always love my PPC Macs, but they can not touch my Intel Macs in performance for the price.

    -iGrant
     
  20. Lord Zedd macrumors 6502a

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    Thats the key phrase of that whole thing and exactly why the Mini and Macbook are junk.

    Integrated graphics has its place in the computing world just not in Macs, especially for their price. If the Mini was $400 and the Macbook was $700 IG would be reasonable, but not $600/$1100.
     
  21. iGrant macrumors 6502a

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    Lord Zedd, not to point out the obvious, but the Macbook and the Mac Mini are not for people that do graphics design that need dedicated video, that is what the Pro series of Macs are for, these Macs are for the other users that just surf the web, listen to music, watch movies, and want to have fun.

    -iGrant
     
  22. Turmoil macrumors regular

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    Mac Mini=nice little computer

    The mini is a nice little computer. I bought one of the 1st models when they came out and also have a newer Intel based Mini - I use it mostly as a media station, together w/ eye tv it streams my tv, movies videos, music, etc. I've been very pleased with the quality and value. I use the older mini for word proccessing and light office graphics. The fella that says they are "junk" simply does not know what he's talking about.
     
  23. Lord Zedd macrumors 6502a

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    Mac Mini=Old, overpriced, JUNK

    No duh, fun includes games. With Snow Leopard the graphics processor will play an more important role in everyday use and the performance gap will be even bigger. Those machines with an actual graphics GPU will have a huge edge over those crippled with IG.

    I like the mini, I bought the Revision B 1.42 G4 Mini when they updated it and I overclocked it to 1.5GHz. That was the first Mac I ever bought brand new and I would do it again.

    If they had stuck with PPC we would also still be stuck with single, maybe dual, core G4 Powerbooks too. Lets face it, a G5 Powerbook was never possible because of heat issues and a G6 wouldn't have been any easier or cheaper.

    Clearly you have an expensive :apple:TV, which is an even more crippled piece of junk IF it was to be used as an actual computer. However, it does the media center job it was designed to do very well since its a low stress application that does not rely on a GPU to do much work. Looks like you made a very poor choice on what to buy. :rolleyes:
     
  24. opeter macrumors 65816

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    To the OP, if you need a Mac mini, right now, and you can get a good price for a refurbished modell, i would buy it.

    But maybe, maybe it is better, you wait 2 more weeks and see if the Mac mini gets any speed bump, update or if they cancel it...
     
  25. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    Simply isn't true. The Core Solo mini smoked the G4 Mini's 9200 gpu in every bench mark. All Intel Minis are better at video than any of the G4 Minis.

    As long as you're not doing gpu-intensive tasks requiring the use of vertex shaders or multiple cores (e.g., intense 3D games, Aperture, Pixelmator), then a current Mini is a very good machine, especially for its price. While we all hope for improvements (x4500HD, HDMI or better, 8 gb RAM, 3 gbps SATA, 802.11n), it's still an excellent value for performance.
     

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