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Drewps5co0tt

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I've decided to purchase an Apple Watch! I don't really wear watches HOWEVER, when I go outside to workout at night, I'm doing so without any protection in case of an emergency (I don't like things in my pockets in general) and never take my phone with me. Plus, I'd like to start getting into tracking my workouts, and seeing just what kind of progress I'm making with them.

I've heard the rumors that Apple Watch 6 SHOULD be getting blood oxygen levels (whether that will be a software update that will also work on previous models or not is still not known). Also new micro LED display, etc.

So I'm curious, should I buy NOW or should I be patient and wait until the fall?

What would you do?
 
Yea, the watches don't seem to hold their value like the iPhones/iPads do. What do you guys think about the oxygen sensor rumor? Do you think the current S5 watch already has the hardware in place, where it will only need a software update to work?
 
Yea, the watches don't seem to hold their value like the iPhones/iPads do. What do you guys think about the oxygen sensor rumor? Do you think the current S5 watch already has the hardware in place, where it will only need a software update to work?
I believe I did read that somewhere recently.
Just found this article. It’s from 5 years ago though...
 
Depends on a) your disposable income, and b) your sense of urgency for having an Apple Watch right now.

@Itinj24 makes a good suggestion, if a) isn't an issue.

If you buy a 5 now, there's no guarantee that you won't be willing to wait for the 7, or later model, because the 5 works just fine for you.

Personally, I'd go for a 5 now. My guess is you'll be glad you did.
 
I think get the 5 now. The 6 is ages away.

If we were in June or later it would be a different story but it’s March so go for it.
 
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Get the 5 now. I bought my wife a S5 Hermes just a couple of weeks ago as a birthday gift (replacing her S4 - like me she's had a Watch since S0), so clearly I'm advising something I have done myself.

Getting an S3 is a terrible idea IMO, you will absolutely want to replace that with an S6. If you get an S5 then there's a very good chance you'll be happy to keep it without going for the S6 - if you've waited this long you're clearly not desperate to have the latest tech like many of us on here are (me included).

If you wait for the S6 then when it comes out, why not wait for the S7 rather than buy it?
 
A timely "here's what we have heard rumoured about the Watch S6" article has been published on another Apple news site just a few hours ago.

If accurate it's going to be an eminently skippable upgrade in my view, and I say that as someone who has had every iPhone other than the (equally skippable) XS, and every Watch other than the S2 (and S1, but they launched at the same time as I recall, so nobody had both).

Blood oxygen and improved ECG, both possibly only requiring software updates. Sleep tracking tied to hardware (with no reason given) and a suggestion that battery life concerns will be at least in part addressed by reminding the wearer to charge the Watch before bedtime (seriously). That's it aside some extra faces that will be WatchOS 7 rather than Watch S6 updates.

That's so minor I'm not sure I believe it, and tend to think there will be a speed upgrade and power management enhancements as well, but unless something is coming that is staying secret (which to be fair was the case with AOD right up to launch time) it's not looking tempting.
 
Similar situation, although I know I want to get the series 5. BB and Amazon have the 44mm $15 off. Any thoughts as to whether there will be a better deal upcoming, without waiting until the fall or later?
 
Got mine on ebay for $250AUD off retail a month ago and a $95 case thrown in. Was only a month old.
 
I did this with the S3 when the S4 came out. I lost money, tbh. The Watches lose their value so much quicker than the phones do.
It's an expense not an investment.

If you want an investment, buy some Class B shares of Berkshire-Hathaway, QQQ or AAPL.

When you buy a watch/smartphone/computer/etc. buy it for the benefit you expect to receive during your ownership and active usage of the device, not for the purported resale value of the spent carcass.
 
Similar situation, although I know I want to get the series 5. BB and Amazon have the 44mm $15 off. Any thoughts as to whether there will be a better deal upcoming, without waiting until the fall or later?

$15 off is a terrible discount. That Barely would even cover the taxes.

Now, Best Buy will price match the Apple Watch from Amazon if you can find the Apple Watch discounted, but it Has to be shipped and sold direct from Amazon. I would just continue recirculate your searches on Amazon, until you find a discount with the criteria mentioned above. That’s probably your best bet, as ‘brick and mortar’ stores won’t reduce the sale of the S5 Apple Watch more significantly until mid 2020 summer.
 
$15 off is a terrible discount. That Barely would even cover the taxes.

Now, Best Buy will price match the Apple Watch from Amazon if you can find the Apple Watch discounted, but it Has to be shipped and sold direct from Amazon. I would just continue recirculate your searches on Amazon, until you find a discount with the criteria mentioned above. That’s probably your best bet, as ‘brick and mortar’ stores won’t reduce the sale of the S5 Apple Watch more significantly until mid 2020 summer.

Yeah, I actually found an "open box" one on Amazon for $365 so I went ahead with that. $65 off much better than $15!
 
Similar situation, although I know I want to get the series 5. BB and Amazon have the 44mm $15 off. Any thoughts as to whether there will be a better deal upcoming, without waiting until the fall or later?

I really don't know who could tell you that. I do know Amazon had them for $100 off 2 months ago, though I bought the stainless steel. $15 off isn't much of a deal at all. Unless you just have to have it now, I'd wait, because a deal twice as good as that could be as close as a week away.
 
If accurate it's going to be an eminently skippable upgrade in my view

One thing that isn't mentioned is the processor. I'm hesitant to buy the S5 as it's got the same CPU (performance anyway) as the S4. I'm hoping the S6 will give big speed gains that will help with longevity.
 
Yeah, I actually found an "open box" one on Amazon for $365 so I went ahead with that. $65 off much better than $15!

‘Open Box’ From Amazon are typically pretty good Units. Just make sure you thoroughly inspect it, and give it a good trial run to make sure everything operates as it should. The only issue I have with open box sometimes, if you never really know why it was returned in the first place, usually it’s for minor things (I.e. the price was too high, upgraded to the larger or smaller size, different casing color, buyers remorse, ect).
 
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One thing that isn't mentioned is the processor. I'm hesitant to buy the S5 as it's got the same CPU (performance anyway) as the S4. I'm hoping the S6 will give big speed gains that will help with longevity.
Fair comment, and in the post you quoted that from I believe I said I think there will be a performance upgrade. It will have to be balanced against battery life though, which will limit any speed increase I think, especially if there is need to make the S6 24 hour capable for sleep tracking, remembering current models are only rated for 18 hours.

The S5 didn't get a processor upgrade over the S4 - why was that? I'd have to say it was for two reasons, 1. that the S4 was fast enough, and 2. that the S5 is already pushing things with battery life by adding AOD, so they didn't want a more power-hungry processor making things even harder when they didn't need it.

I'm sorry I don't remember from your previous posts if you already have a Watch or if you're looking to buy your first, but in case you don't currently have a Watch at all, what I would say is that the S4 and S5 are plenty fast enough.

Could they be (noticeably) faster - certainly, and it would probably feel sluggish to go back to the current performance after using a faster Watch, but they don't feel slow. I doubt WatchOS7 will change that.

With the S6, if Apple is looking to make sleep tracking and/or blood oxygen measurement a key challenge they'll be up against is battery life again. Same as with the S5 they'll not want to add too much more performance as that will just make it worse.

I don't think they'll go a third year with the same processor however, and maybe they have been working on something with more power and some fancy power management as well. Even so I just don't think that they will have sufficient battery power available that they'll go nuts with the processing power upgrade, especially when nothing the Watch does requires a lot of processor power. The iPhone gets ever more processor intensive computational photography improvements and is used for gaming so arguably needs step changes in CPU and GPU performance that the Watch doesn't. The Watch needs more electrical power to drive more hardware and to go for longer, not to push more bits.

Lastly, contrary to a lot of what I see posted on here, Apple wants to tempt people to upgrade with new features before their old hardware needs to be replaced, not make people grudgingly shell out because they think their old Watch is no longer functional. Even more so they want people to be happy that their two year old Watch still gets new features for free - that makes them loyal and more likely to upgrade at some future point.

If a customer gets the impression their Watch has been made obsolete by Apple while they still consider it to be within a reasonable lifespan they are likely to be unhappy and perhaps not bother with a new one at all. It would also push even the real die-hard fans more toward the cheaper Alu models rather than pay more for the Edition, Hermes or even SS if they can't be used for more than a year or two, and I expect there is more margin in the higher end models than the cheaper ones.

Overall I absolutely expect the S6 to be better than the S5, but I'm not sure from what I am hearing that it will be much better.
 
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