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This is an interesting premise. It got me thinking as to why there is such a thick bezel. I had read that OLED displays allowed for a greater edge-to-edge implementation than LED. Hence why the iPhone 11 Pros have a noticeably thinner border than the regular iPhone 11. An AW6 with larger display within the same housing would certainly distinguish it from the AW4/5.
Yeah there a very thick bezel, they should get rid of the bezel and expand the display
 
I don’t suspect any displays improvements will really be made until micro-Led is present on the Apple Watch. Apple just recently added another OLED supplier in the last year for the Apple Watch (Aside from LG), so I assume OLED will be the primary display until Micro-LED reaches mass production, which was just recently rumored as well.
 
The rumors are that it will be able to help predict and warn of impending panic attacks. I’d like for the watch to monitor HRV, beyond just a couple times a day, and give feedback on stress levels. Similar to Garmin, I’d like it to suggest a moment to relax/breath, when my stress levels based on HRV have gotten very high.

HRV monitoring would be awesome, I'm hoping this might be included if they do a sleep app. I currently use Autosleep which has HRV monitoring, but it's not really implemented very well IMO. My main use for HRV monitoring would be to avoid over training.
 
HRV monitoring would be awesome, I'm hoping this might be included if they do a sleep app. I currently use Autosleep which has HRV monitoring, but it's not really implemented very well IMO. My main use for HRV monitoring would be to avoid over training.

I'm assuming that you're aware that by doing the "Breathe" app, that it generates an HRV value, right?
I've found it to be pretty much in line with another app/device that I've used (Cor-Sense) when taken first thing in the morning, so accuracy is acceptable, it's all relative anyway.
 
Definitely wait to see if there are any new features you absolutely must have. Otherwise purchase now if you can get a really good price.
 
Well, it came back in stock in the refurb store so I took the plunge. Too good a deal to miss - even used ones on eBay aren't usually that "low" in price, so £369 (44mm) is pretty good for effectively brand new.

I decided that out of the biggest rumours:
  • SPO2 sensing - very small (unlikely) chance of it being enabled on older watches but if not, it's not the end of the world. I've survived approximately half a life without it so far! (touch wood etc). I'm also skeptical about accuracy on the wrist, though I know if anyone will have the best accuracy it's Apple.
  • Sleep tracking - I'd rather my watch was on charge (unless on occasion to check for sleep apnea in relation to point 1)
  • TouchID - meh, I had the series 2 and thought the system was fine. If it's taken off your wrist, it locks, then it's as secure as any credit card. If someone removes my wrist, then I'll be more worried about the bleeding.
  • Better CPU - okay, the one downside, current one is same as S4 I believe so getting on a little. But they're still selling and supporting the S3 so not overly worried.
If they come up with some groundbreaking thing where it burns calories for you or something, then I'll just upgrade.
 
I got my self another 5 yesterday I have a Fenix 6 sapphire and a Garmin 945, both measured oxygen levels and don't really use that stat. I have a 5 44 cellular and looking forward to it.
 
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Next watch needs much better battery life. Personally I have gone back to my Garmin as it offers sleep tracking and can track multiple runs and cycle rides over a few days before the battery runs out. My Apple Watch used to run out of juice quite often. Doesn’t happened with my Garmin. Would love to go back to the Apple Watch for tighter integration with IOS but really need at least 2 days worth of battery life.
 
Next watch needs much better battery life. Personally I have gone back to my Garmin as it offers sleep tracking and can track multiple runs and cycle rides over a few days before the battery runs out. My Apple Watch used to run out of juice quite often. Doesn’t happened with my Garmin. Would love to go back to the Apple Watch for tighter integration with IOS but really need at least 2 days worth of battery life.

Other than the Venu, Garmin watches have low-res MIP displays...which is probably why battery life is longer. They work for their intended purpose as it’s just data with little regard for aesthetics. They are a fitness watch first, whereas thé AW is a smartwatch with some fitness features.
 
Next watch needs much better battery life. Personally I have gone back to my Garmin as it offers sleep tracking and can track multiple runs and cycle rides over a few days before the battery runs out. My Apple Watch used to run out of juice quite often. Doesn’t happened with my Garmin. Would love to go back to the Apple Watch for tighter integration with IOS but really need at least 2 days worth of battery life.

I know battery life is a common topic for the Apple Watch for others to want to see improvements, and I agree in some aspects I can manage 22/24 hours on my Apple Watch with adjusted settings/conversation tactics.

The battery technology with lithium ion isn’t changing anytime soon, what needs to change is the display technology. OLED is not that efficient with managing power, micro-LED is the future for the Apple Watch. That alone will create less power draw, thus resulting in extended battery life. With all these added health sensors, the efficiency of the A-Series processors can only tweak the battery life improvements so much on an annual basis. Apple engineers are Likely aware for improved battery longevity, it shouldn’t come down to the which needing ‘a bigger battery‘, we need to see the display technology change, but we’re not quite there yet for Micro LED mass production/supplier relations.
 
I'm assuming that you're aware that by doing the "Breathe" app, that it generates an HRV value, right?
I've found it to be pretty much in line with another app/device that I've used (Cor-Sense) when taken first thing in the morning, so accuracy is acceptable, it's all relative anyway.

Yeah I use that when I can remember to do it, although Autosleep automatically tracks it. I'd love to see something like that as I rarely remember to use the Breathe app when I first wake up. That's why I have hopes for Apple's sleep app, they just have to combine wake time with heartrate. I also track possible overtraining just by monitoring my heartrate and also grip strength and it does seem fairly accurate, although even after all that I still go off of knowing my body.
 
Hmm I’ve been thinking lately with the AW5 being on sale, if I should grab one and sell my S4.. I’ve had my S4 since launch, and have not seen any rumors for the 6 besides the blood oxygen feature (which honestly would be pretty cool) and the sleep features which I wouldn’t use since I don’t wear my watch to bed.
 
Does the always on display for the AW5 really make that big of a difference ?
 
Does the always on display for the AW5 really make that big of a difference ?

Depends. Look at like this, do you want your information displayed where you can physically look at the watch display without raising your wrist to activate a display? If you’re somebody that likes to view your ‘Info’ on your watch at any position no matter how your wrist is oriented, then AOD would be a ‘distinct’ advantage in your situation.

For me personally, It’s a sub par feature that’s not that useful In my scenarios, but again, we all have different use cases.
 
Id like to see a more rectangle face that can be flipped, vertical or parallel.
 
Does the always on display for the AW5 really make that big of a difference ?

It should be called "always-sorta-on", as it dims significantly when not being used. I understand it's a battery thing, but I admit it was a bit disappointing to see it in action.
 
It should be called "always-sorta-on", as it dims significantly when not being used. I understand it's a battery thing, but I admit it was a bit disappointing to see it in action.

This is my exact issue with the AOD. The ‘dimming‘ makes it almost useless from a ‘viewing at a distance standpoint’, where Apple is throttling the display measure simply because of the battery longevity rating. I expect them to improve on AOD in the future however, as it probably will continue to be a feature extended to other future Apple Watch models.
 
So if updates are annually, we’re just only over 2 months away (time flies when you're locked down for nearly 3 months!)
AW4 and AW5 happened in early September along side iPhone announcements.

If iPhone 12 is pushed back to October, I hope that doesn't delay AW6.
 
So if updates are annually, we’re just only over 2 months away (time flies when you're locked down for nearly 3 months!)
AW4 and AW5 happened in early September along side iPhone announcements.

If iPhone 12 is pushed back to October, I hope that doesn't delay AW6.
The Apple Watch announcement will happen at the same time as the iPhone.
 
So if updates are annually, we’re just only over 2 months away (time flies when you're locked down for nearly 3 months!)
AW4 and AW5 happened in early September along side iPhone announcements.

If iPhone 12 is pushed back to October, I hope that doesn't delay AW6.

Well we know from past experiences the Nike Apple Watch launched later in October before, When the other models launched in September. It wouldn’t affect Apple in any direction if it were to launch later, as long as it lunches at some point in the fourth quarter for 2020 during the holiday peak season.
 
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