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Should I come back to the iPhone?

Smithwicks said:
The fact that it works everywhere as opposed to apple pay where its accepted at maybe 15% of the places i frequent.
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dark_knight177 said:
Exactly. Watch when Samsung Pay will surpasses Apple Pay and becomes the most popular mobile payment later this year.
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I think just like Apple Pay it will be used the same way, as contactless payments.

Give it time and they will both be on par, or the whole system will change were apple and Samsung pay will be obsolete and there won't be a limit on contactless payment.
 
Go for it.
I am a fun of both Apple and Google phones, I can't stand other android manufacturers, like Samsung and LG. I like a pure unic system.

I love Android because it is very customizable, and I like Apple because it's very easy to use.
 
Smithwicks said:
The fact that it works everywhere as opposed to apple pay where its accepted at maybe 15% of the places i frequent.
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I'm no Samsung fan, but I have to hand it to them. Their implementation of mobile payments will probably be more successful than Apple's. I love using Apple Pay, but it's a year out and I still have to remember the few places I can actually use it.

Ironically, Apple and Samsung seemed to have flip-flopped in the ways they've rolled out this new feature. Usually, Samsung, in its mad rush to be cutting edge, implements a new technology in a non-user-friendly (or even sloppy) way, and Apple swoops in a year or two later and does the same thing, makes it simple for the user and it's a hit.

In this case, Apple made Apple Pay fantastic to use, but has thus far failed to create the infrastructure to use it in. Samsung comes in, implements nearly the exact same feature and makes it useable anywhere by using older, already-established tech. It's interesting how this has turned out.

Anyway, Samsung Pay might be more successful in the short run, but my guess is that neither Apple Pay or Samsung Pay will be the winner in the long run.
 
For OP: Got an Ip 6S Plus in September. Great phone in many areas and I will not give it up....however, I just picked up a Verizon Droid Turbo 2 that I like a whole lot. It has a great battery and screen and is slightly smaller than the Iphone. I will use both phones, alternating by taking the nano-sim out of one or the other. Have your cake and eat it too.
 
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BeeGood said:
I'm no Samsung fan, but I have to hand it to them. Their implementation of mobile payments will probably be more successful than Apple's. I love using Apple Pay, but it's a year out and I still have to remember the few places I can actually use it.

Ironically, Apple and Samsung seemed to have flip-flopped in the ways they've rolled out this new feature. Usually, Samsung, in its mad rush to be cutting edge, implements a new technology in a non-user-friendly (or even sloppy) way, and Apple swoops in a year or two later and does the same thing, makes it simple for the user and it's a hit.

In this case, Apple made Apple Pay fantastic to use, but has thus far failed to create the infrastructure to use it in. Samsung comes in, implements nearly the exact same feature and makes it useable anywhere by using older, already-established tech. It's interesting how this has turned out.

Anyway, Samsung Pay might be more successful in the short run, but my guess is that neither Apple Pay or Samsung Pay will be the winner in the long run.
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Google Wallet was available on most NFC phones that supported secure element like most of the Nexus devices. Google just never pushed hard enough. I've used it in McDonalds over 2 years ago.
But the minute Apple announced it, they decided to push it more and rebranded it to Android Pay and Samsung innovated more to make it work everywhere.
Apple Pay is a dud. In Canada, it only works with AMEX. Doubt the other banks will want to support it cause they all have their hands in mobile pay companies as well!
 
I wonder how many people that own Android phones even know what NFC is or even know about Samsung Pay or Google Wallet. It's likely a small number since it's not an advertising point of any Android phone.

I have never used either one just as I have never used Apple Pay. I go to King Soopers every Monday night for Groceries and use either cash or my banks debit card which doesn't support Apple Pay if it ever will.

Honestly, I just can't see pulling out my phone to pay for something.
 
luhai said:
Android pros

1）Customs ROMs, custom launchers, xposed modules. If you don't like how the phone is setup (I.e touchwiz) there is a way to change it. And you can try many different approach difference has to create an UI. On the S3 and Nexus 5, I have tried Touchwiz, MIUI, stock android, cyanogenmod and parapidandroid as well as different launcher like nova, Google now and that funky Nokia laucher.
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To put custom ROMS and such...wouldn't you have to root the phone first. And depending on the version of Android you have, that may not be possible.
 
bufffilm said:
To put custom ROMS and such...wouldn't you have to root the phone first. And depending on the version of Android you have, that may not be possible.
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For launcher you don't need to root, for ROMs, it depends. Normally I would root first to create a NANDroid backup (or you do it via titanium), so I could go back to stock anytime. Otherwise, depend on the ROM you could just enable the debugger (a simple matter of hitting build version a few times and enable it in the unlocked menu) and let it rip from the PC client. For cyanogenmod, there is simple pc slide installer for it, but I never actually used it as I do it the traditional way.

As for support, as long as the manufacturing actually follow their open source obligation, creating ROMs for it is simple and commonplace places like XDA has tons of ROM and mods. Most manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, and Motorola do it (and a few like one plus actually encourages it) but a few don't (Xiaomi is by far the biggest offender).
 
I don't really use Samsung Pay. I have it set up, but don't use it. I don't think Apple Pay or Samsung Pay would make me choose one phone over the other.
 
luhai said:
For launcher you don't need to root, for ROMs, it depends. Normally I would root first to create a NANDroid backup (or you do it via titanium), so I could go back to stock anytime. Otherwise, depend on the ROM you could just enable the debugger (a simple matter of hitting build version a few times and enable it in the unlocked menu) and let it rip from the PC client. For cyanogenmod, there is simple pc slide installer for it, but I never actually used it as I do it the traditional way.

As for support, as long as the manufacturing actually follow their open source obligation, creating ROMs for it is simple and commonplace places like XDA has tons of ROM and mods. Most manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, and Motorola do it (and a few like one plus actually encourages it) but a few don't (Xiaomi is by far the biggest offender).
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I see...thanks.

My exposure to Android is limited - bought a Tab Pro 8.4" tablet back in June; sharp display but the battery life is terrible.
 
bufffilm said:
I see...thanks.

My exposure to Android is limited - bought a Tab Pro 8.4" tablet back in June; sharp display but the battery life is terrible.
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You might want to try this.

forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-pro-12-10-8/general/reseating-battery-wonder-battery-life-t2944610
 
luhai said:
You might want to try this.

forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-pro-12-10-8/general/reseating-battery-wonder-battery-life-t2944610
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LOL...tried that and also turned on low-power mode and uninstalled all the gunk (after I rooted the device), and still only get about 7.5 hrs on the tablet.

Just leaving it on standby drains the battery about 3% a day. In contrast, my iPad 2 in standby for a week, and the battery level stays the same.
 
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bowlman2345 said:
I don't really use Samsung Pay. I have it set up, but don't use it. I don't think Apple Pay or Samsung Pay would make me choose one phone over the other.
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I apologize for my part of the derail of this thread towards mobile payments 🙂

Just summarizing what you've posted so far, it seems like better battery life and seamless integration across devices is what's pulling you back to the iPhone fold. That's legit, but as a pretty committed iPhone user, I'd advise you to stay put.

The thing that pushed you away three years ago still remains. You still can't really customize much and the icon/folder arrangement remains the same. We have notification screen widgets now and that allows you a little freedom to do things (I actually think they're pretty awesome), but I suspect that's probably not the level of freedom you want. Like others have said, outside of jailbreaking (no idea if this is even possible for the 6s+) you get what you get.
 
dark_knight177 said:
Please note that iPhone 6S Plus lags and stutters badly with iOS 9. Siri is a joke and Apple's cloud services are horrible.

These are the points against switching:

1. Siri can't use Google Maps, therefore you will be stuck with inferior product Apple Maps.
2. Siri is a POS that doesn't understand more than 50% of the time, where it's just easier to pull out my phone and complete the task manually. Google Now understands me 95% and saves tremendous amount of time when doing simple tasks.
3. You will have to use iCloud Photo Library which is unreliable POS. Yes you can use Google Photos but again, Apple doesn't allow it to be the default photo app, therefore you will be stuck with inferior iCloud if you want to have acceptable user experience.
4. Copy and paste is very buggy in iOS 9 and doesn't work half of the time. Whereas it works 100% in Android
5. No native push support for Gmail, if you want to use native mail app. Yes you can download Gmail app but again you can't set it as default mail app. Again you are stuck with inferior product.
6. iOS 9 is a joke and stutters on the Plus model, despite iPhone 6S Plus having the most powerful CPU in the world.
7. Too many other bugs to list.

These are the points for switching:
1. You miss iOS
2. iPhone 6S Plus currently has the highest benchmark score, but again it lags horribly due to inefficient OS.
3. iMessage
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1: Apple Maps isn't that bad specially when it first started. I actually use Apple maps in a pinch and find it basically as good as Google maps now.
2: Siri I got no issues with and it understands me around 90-95% of the time
3:iCloud works perfectly fine and I also have cloud backups on Dropbox, and One drive quite easily.
4: Copy and paste works 100% of the time ... at least for me
5: Personally IDC about Gmail not being the default app since I am not a huge fan of Gmail or in google in general
6: I have the 6 Plus and it doesn't stutter at all and I'm using the beta software
7: sounds like you want to switch.....
 
I had switched to the S5 for a bit, and like you I missed iOS. As soon as I was able I came back to iOS I did. I don't regret it one bit. You already have the iPad so you know what the iOS experience is like. Here are some positives for iOS for me:

  • I get the latest and greatest updates to iOS right away, with everyone else.
  • Battery on my iPhone 6 Plus completely blows away what I had on the S5 ( I have no need to charge midday).
  • I don't have to worry about Apple sharing my data.
  • I can buy a phone direct through Apple and get it completely unlocked.
  • The camera (at least as compared to the S5) is light years better photo quality in lower light.
  • In spite of other comments I have never had a problem with Apple servicing my devices at the Genius Bar (yes I have to make an appointment, but they either repair or replace on the spot)
  • Apple Pay is way more reliable than Google Pay ever was (this one is just cool factor for me).
  • Touch ID works brilliantly and is well integrated into the OS.
  • Siri works really well for me, I occasionally have a problem but not often.
  • Apple will support this phone with updates beyond two generations.
 
ggibson913 said:
I had switched to the S5 for a bit, and like you I missed iOS. As soon as I was able I came back to iOS I did. I don't regret it one bit. You already have the iPad so you know what the iOS experience is like. Here are some positives for iOS for me:

  • I get the latest and greatest updates to iOS right away, with everyone else.
  • Battery on my iPhone 6 Plus completely blows away what I had on the S5 ( I have no need to charge midday).
  • I don't have to worry about Apple sharing my data.
  • I can buy a phone direct through Apple and get it completely unlocked.
  • The camera (at least as compared to the S5) is light years better photo quality in lower light.
  • In spite of other comments I have never had a problem with Apple servicing my devices at the Genius Bar (yes I have to make an appointment, but they either repair or replace on the spot)
  • Apple Pay is way more reliable than Google Pay ever was (this one is just cool factor for me).
  • Touch ID works brilliantly and is well integrated into the OS.
  • Siri works really well for me, I occasionally have a problem but not often.
  • Apple will support this phone with updates beyond two generations.
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But one thing that Android does way better is notifications.
 
bufffilm said:
LOL...tried that and also turned on low-power mode and uninstalled all the gunk (after I rooted the device), and still only get about 7.5 hrs on the tablet.

Just leaving it on standby drains the battery about 3% a day. In contrast, my iPad 2 in standby for a week, and the battery level stays the same.
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In that case standby time will improve until you get marshmallow, simple be cause android be that does not has the same deep sleep mode Apple does. Eve then I doubt it can match Apple. after use my iPhone for a week, I suspect there is probably some sort of dynamic and even deeper sleep mode built into the SOC itself and tap by iOS at kernel level. This would be feature impossible for android to match since it is shared across platforms.
 
bufffilm said:
But one thing that Android does way better is notifications.
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I felt that way for a long time too, but notifications have gotten a lot better on the iPhone. The only thing I've noticed that's missing is a notification light (I personally don't care about this) and the ability to dismiss all notifications (not just by app).
 
luhai said:
In that case standby time will improve until you get marshmallow, simple be cause android be that does not has the same deep sleep mode Apple does. Eve then I doubt it can match Apple. after use my iPhone for a week, I suspect there is probably some sort of dynamic and even deeper sleep mode built into the SOC itself and tap by iOS at kernel level. This would be feature impossible for android to match since it is shared across platforms.
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Just to cap this off...no Marshmallow! Samsung nixed those plans last year.

This tablet came out in Feb-2014 with Kitkat (and it wasn't a cheapo tablet) and that's all she's getting. Pretty crappy of Samsung...I'd have serious reservations about buying another Samsung tablet. (Fortunately, I only paid $200 for it, but still. )
 
BeeGood said:
I felt that way for a long time too, but notifications have gotten a lot better on the iPhone. The only thing I've noticed that's missing is a notification light (I personally don't care about this) and the ability to dismiss all notifications (not just by app).
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You can dismiss all (at least all from a day) if notifications are grouped by time rather than by app.
 
bufffilm said:
Just to cap this off...no Marshmallow! Samsung nixed those plans last year.

This tablet came out in Feb-2014 with Kitkat (and it wasn't a cheapo tablet) and that's all she's getting. Pretty crappy of Samsung...I'd have serious reservations about buying another Samsung tablet. (Fortunately, I only paid $200 for it, but still. )
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Inconsistency with updates is unfortunately the biggest downside with android, other than nexus devices, it just all too common for companies to abandon its perfectly working product when's new one comes along.

The major improvement in marshmallow is 1) android finally got a deep sleep mode via doze and 2) Google finally pulled the plug for apps to directly waking up the device to check for updates (which made sustained sleep impossible) now the control is firmly on the OS and the user to decide when to wake up.
 
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