Should I even get ram? MBP 13 i5

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  1. bobalob macrumors newbie

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    Just switched from an Asus G72GX to a Macbook Pro 13 i5. I love the portability and the quickness of the Mac, I just want a little more speed. Should I just upgrade to 8gb ram, I just want the macbook to be quicker.
     
  2. motulist macrumors 601

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    I've heard that getting an SSD is one of the most major speed boost upgrades you can add (unless you're talking about doing really cpu intensive tasks like 3D rendering and whatnot).
     
  3. ZombieZakk macrumors 6502

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    what are you doing with the comp? use istat pro widget and see how much ram your currently using.

    An SSD or 7200rpm drive would probably give more performance but more ram wont hurt lol
     
  4. kobyh15 macrumors 6502a

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    The RAM will make the machine faster when multitasking as you'll be able to load more applications in RAM without noticing any slowdown. If you're not using the 4 GB that you already have, odds are you won't notice much of a difference with 8 GB. A SSD would be your best bet. It's going to drastically affect things about your machine that will make it "feel" much faster - boot time, application launch time, etc. I would definitely look into a SSD if I were you.
     
  5. bobalob thread starter macrumors newbie

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    i am using the istat pro app and it says i am using 481mb, i just want a little extra speed for my games on steam such as portal 2 and css
     
  6. motulist macrumors 601

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    You still haven't defined what you mean by "wanting more speed." Do you want a higher frame rate and higher graphics texture quality setting? Or do you want shorter load times? And if you're talking about online games, do you want shorter download times? What EXACTLY do you want to do better or faster?
     
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    If you want higher frame rates you need a better graphics card. In essence you need one of the 15" MBPs.
     
  9. ZombieZakk macrumors 6502

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    more Ram really wont raise FPS sorry your being limited by the IGP on the 13" sorry.

    Ram= better multitasking as mroe can be stored in the rams you need ram fro gaming but your not going to go from 30-60fps with more ram. you might see 1 or 2

    Faster HDD/SSD will improve the game load times app launch times and can improve how fast certain aspect of the game loads as it depends when it has to read data off the drive.

    your biggest draw is and always will be the IGP on the 13" it can handle gaming but not at high quality or with high fps.
     
  10. bobalob thread starter macrumors newbie

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    oh, i see, what if i want to run windows xp using bootcamp, what will i need to make it less laggy or will the 4gb of ram do just fine?
     
  11. altecXP macrumors 65816

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    XP should be just fine with 4GB in bootcamp
     
  12. bobalob thread starter macrumors newbie

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    are you sure? i am planning to download some games on there like maplestory and stuff, do you think it will run fine?
     
  13. snaky69 macrumors 603

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    Windows XP will not run on the new MBP's, as of this generation Apple has dropped all driver support for XP and vista, you have to run 7, there is no way around it.

    Sorry to burst your bubble.


    Edit: Running your games in windows is likely to improve performance a bit, but I wouldn't expect miracles. The Intel 3000HD is a low-end integrated graphics card, it was never meant for gaming in the first place.
     
  14. Ccrew macrumors 68020

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    Definitely correct, considering if you run the Windows experience index the graphics only score in the mid 4's.
     
  15. bobalob thread starter macrumors newbie

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    ah I see, I never knew about the xp thing. I just assumed you could run any windows in bootcamp. Thanks for all the information guys, appreciate it. I just got my mac a few days agos so I am still getting accustomed to it. This what I get for getting the base mbp :(. Oh well, everything else is great!
     
  16. golgo1313 macrumors regular

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    one thing to note is that if you are going to run windows 7 using vmware fusion or parallel, then you might want to spring for 8gb of ram. in the setting for these programs, you set how much ram they can use, and let's face it, win7 doesn't work with 2gb of ram...
     
  17. adnoh macrumors 6502a

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    Definitely go with SSD (watch out for compatibility issues with Sandforce drives). I highly recommend Intel.
     
  18. mac00l macrumors 6502

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    Yes you will get better FPS by expanding RAM, since VRAM go from 386MB to 512 MB when installing 8GB RAM
     
  19. acedickson macrumors 6502a

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    That won't increase the FPS enough to notice. He's wanting to play games on the highest settings and the 13" just isn't good for that.
     
  20. SideStepSociety, May 5, 2011
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    Just curious here, has anyone actually tried installing Windows XP on a new MBP? Just because it's "not supported", doesn't mean it won't work. ;)

    I'm sure you could get XP to boot and run on a new MBP (Unless Apple has somehow blocked it. Not sure if this is even possible.) You likely won't have Boot Camp drivers, but you could probably manually install all the drivers you need for the system to work.

    I would try it myself, but after all the grief XP has put me through, I told myself I'd never go back to it. :p

    EDIT to add:

    Just tried booting to my copy of XP Pro w/SP3. My 2011 17" MBP booted the Windows XP setup just swimmingly! Could've gone further and actually installed XP, but I've already got 7 up and running, so I didn't feel too much like taking a step backwards to XP. :D
     
  21. chamisool macrumors newbie

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    I have the same spec MBP and played with it for a week before upgrading the ram to 8gb. Honestly, I do not see a difference. I have to admit I did not really stress the computer with a lot of programs running, but overall for my daily task of web surfing, listening to music, and chatting on Adium seem to be the same.

    I wish I messed around with Lightroom and Photoshop prior to the ram upgrade, then maybe I can appreciate the upgrade.
     
  22. bobalob thread starter macrumors newbie

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    hi just wanted to update you guys, i plan on buying windows 7, but i dont know which one to get or it doesnt matter?
     
  23. rockyroad55 macrumors 601

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    Doesn't matter. For the general user, regular one should do great.
     
  24. SideStepSociety macrumors 6502

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    Any version will work. Just stay away from "Starter" edition. VERY limited in features.
     
  25. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    Let's see a screen shot of your activity monitor showing RAM utilization. A RAM upgrade can make a big difference for some, and absolutely no difference for others. It depends on your current resource drain. When you take this shot, run all the applications that you normally do to show normal use.
     

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