My AT&T upgrade date was 11/7/2011 - but I have traveling, etc. to do in late November and with the lead times I wanted to get a phone coming ASAP. About a week and a half ago I went into the AT&T store and ordered a 4S 64GB White as an added line on my family plan (we're going to add my mom to my family plan in a couple of months anyway, so I didn't mind having an extra line on the plan). Expected shipping time was 21-28 days, and the status since then is just "Processing" (10 days out now). Today, AT&T released my primary line as upgrade eligible a week early - so now I'm eligible to order a subsidized phone on my actual phone line. Apple Store is showing 1-2 weeks lead time. What I'm contemplating, is ordering a 4S 64GB White from Apple - and whichever phone gets here first, I'll activate that one and return the other. It's a bit of a hassle and I don't like tying up two phones in the process when they're in such limited supply... if AT&T had something in their status update saying "Will ship by XXXX date" I wouldn't do it. But some reports here on MR of AT&T orders taking a long time, where Apple orders seem to ship pretty quickly. Have people who ordered from Apple in the last couple of weeks seen the 1-2 week lead time being pretty accurate?