iPad Pro Should I sell my barely used Surface Pro 4 and get the new iPad Pro 10.5??

ShaunAFC3

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Hey guys and ladies I got a Surface Pro 4 (I5 Core/8GB of RAM/256GB of storage) with the type cover for my birthday 4 months ago in February and I really haven't used it as much as I thought I would.

I have only used the Pro 4 about 20 times in the last 4 months and at the moment it is just sitting on my table haven't used it in just over 3 weeks ago.


To be honest compared to my iPad Air 2 I don't really enjoy using the Surface Pro 4 especially as a tablet not that much, It is too heavy to use as a tablet you have to use it with 2 hands all the time and the Windows 10 OS is definitely not touch friendly and the apps/games from the App Store are garbage and crap! :(


And the main reason that I got the Surface Pro 4 is to play the my all time favourite classic old games like the The Simpsons Hit & Run and the Incredibles, Games like that but I still haven't got the games yet and I am not to sure if those games will even run properly on Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 4 or not but I might still get those games soon tho and also if I was still doing video editing(making YouTube videos) I would be using my Surface Pro 4 for that but I not at the moment but in the future I might start making YouTube videos again just not too sure...

And I have only used my Surface Pro 4 for watching videos, playing mobile games(that you get on IOS/Android), web browsing and and set it but for those things I would rather use my iPad Air 2 but I think I need my Surface Pro 4 for transferring videos to my iPad Air 2 using iTunes and backing up my photos and videos from my smartphone Samsung Galaxy S6 to the Surface Pro 4 but I am not too sure if I could do that on a iPad, Hopefully I be able to do those 2 things on IOS 11 with the new files manager/explorer app.


The times I haven't used my Surface Pro 4, I have been using my really fantastic and awesome iPad Air 2 but I think if I did not have an iPad, I would of definitely used my Surface Pro 4 a lot more then I am now.

I so much more prefer and love using my iPad Air 2 because the tablet experience is definitely way more better and more enjoyable then a Surface Pro 4 because of touch friendly mobile OS IOS and the software the apps/games from the App Store are definitely sooo much more touch friendly and are just way more polished and high quality compared to the Surface Pro as the Windows software is basically designed for the mouse and keyboard from the ground up and the iPad Air 2 is so much more lighter and portable and you can use it in one hand as well. :D:D

But you would think that coming from a heavy and powerful 11.6 inch Acer Windows tablet(I5 core) from 5 years ago(which I still have) that I would use my Surface Pro 4 more then ever well unfortunately that is not the case but if I was to compare my old 11.6 inch Acer Windows 8 tablet to my Surface Pro 4, The Surface Pro 4 definitely wins and much more better in every single category(power, screen, battery life, weight, etc).


So I am thinking of selling my barely used Surface Pro 4(I5 Core/8GB of RAM/256GB of storage) with the type cover to my Mom and get myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB Space Grey despite my iPad Air 2 running very well and haven't experienced any slow downs so far yet.

And if I get the new iPad Pro 10.5 I know I definitely will use the new iPad Pro 10.5 a lot more because it will be replacing my Space Grey 64GB iPad Air 2 which I have had for nearly 2 years now and will still be keeping the Air 2 as a backup if the Pro 10.5 breaks or stops working.

I am interested in getting the new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB Space Grey as I think it will be a big upgrade from my iPad Air 2 64GB Space Grey because of how powerful it is and the bigger screen, the quad speakers set up and the better display and that legendary 10 hour battery life and IOS 11(when it comes out in the fall) and all that awesome new features. :D:D

I know upgrading from an Air 2 to a new iPad Pro 10.5 it is not a massive upgrade but a least it will definitely be more of a upgrade compared to the last years iPad Pro 9.7.

And after selling my Surface Pro 4 and if I do start making YouTube videos in the future, I will most probably be able to do everything I need to do making my videos by using a very good pro video editor like Pinnacle Studio, LumaFusion, etc on the new iPad Pro 10.5.

I only use a iPad Air 2 as my main and primary computer and use it for things like web browsing, playing mobile games, watching videos, etc and my smartphone Samsung Galaxy S6 is for when I am out of the house and use it at places like college, on the bus, waiting for the doctors, etc and I don't have any laptops/desktops and I have just a few old tablets that I have used from over the years but set it.

And I bought my Surface Pro 4 with my own money and at the moment I have pretty much wasted my money but I will get my money back after selling my Surface Pro 4 to my Mom and use that money to get myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch.

And I think the new iPad Pro 10.5 will be perfect for me just like my iPad Air 2 did(and still is) but the new iPad Pro 10.5 will definitely be even more perfect and better then my iPad Air 2 and of course the barely used Surface Pro 4(which I most probably/likely be selling).


Yeah I need some help/advice everyone. Should I sell my barely used Surface Pro 4 and get the new iPad Pro 10.5?? Or should I keep the Surface Pro 4 and try to get my all time favourite old classic games(The Simpsons Hit & Run and the Incredibles, etc) and try to play them?? If you was in my shoes what would you do?? o_Oo_O


Typed all this thread by using the on screen keyboard on my iPad Air 2 haha!! :D
 
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TheAppleFairy

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sounds like you already know the answer to the question. I think the Surface Pro 4 is a great computer, but it doesn't look like you need or want a full blown computer. I think they both have their merits. I have an iPad pro 12.9 inch model and mini. I also have a surface pro 4 computer.

I like them all but they all have different purposes, with some overlap.
 

sracer

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I think that you've got a great combo right now. The Air 2 still runs fine. The SP4 with those specs is a great device. I suggest examining why you aren't using it more. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of new shiny things (I myself am guilty of that), but I don't see what a 10.4 Pro brings to the table that is worth ditching the SP4 and Air 2.
 

rowspaxe

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Hey guys I got a Surface Pro (I5 Core/8GB of RAM/256GB of storage) with the type cover for my birthday 4 months ago in February and I really haven't used it as much as I thought I would.

I have only used the Pro 4 about 20 times in the last 4 months and at the moment it is just sitting on my table haven't used it in just over 3 weeks ago.


To be honest compared to my iPad Air 2 I don't really enjoy using the Surface Pro 4 especially as a tablet not that much, It is too heavy to use as a tablet you have to use it with 2 hands all the time and the Windows 10 OS is definitely not touch friendly and the apps from the App Store are garbage and crap! :(


And the main reason that I got the Surface Pro 4 is to play the my all time favourite classic old games like the The Simpsons Hit & Run and the Incredibles, Games like that but I still haven't got the games yet and I am not to sure if those games will even run properly on Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 4 or not but I might still get those games soon tho and also if I was still doing video editing(making YouTube videos) I would be using my Surface Pro 4 for that but I not at the moment but in the future I might start making YouTube videos again just not too sure...

And I have only used my Surface Pro 4 for watching videos, playing mobile games(that you get on IOS/Android) and web browsing and set it but for those things I would rather use my iPad Air 2.


The times I haven't used my Surface Pro 4, I have been using my really fantastic and awesome iPad Air 2 but I think if I did not have an iPad, I would of definitely used my Surface Pro 4 a lot more then I am now.

I so much more prefer and love using my iPad Air 2 because the tablet experience is definitely way more better and more enjoyable then a Surface Pro 4 because of touch friendly mobile OS IOS and the software the apps/games from the App Store are definitely sooo much more touch friendly and are just way more polished and high quality compared to the Surface Pro as the Windows software is basically designed for the mouse and keyboard from the ground up and the iPad Air 2 is so much more lighter and portable and you can use it in one hand as well. :D:D

But you would think that coming from a heavy and powerful 11.6 inch Acer Windows tablet(I5 core) from 5 years ago(which I still have) that I would use my Surface Pro 4 more then ever well unfortunately that is not the case but if I was to compare my old 11.6 inch Acer Windows 8 tablet to my Surface Pro 4, The Surface Pro 4 definitely wins and much more better in every single category(power, screen, battery life, weight, etc).


So I am thinking of selling my barely used Surface Pro 4(I5 Core/8GB of RAM/256GB of storage) with the type cover to my Mom and get myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB Space Grey despite my iPad Air 2 running very well.

And if I get the new iPad Pro 10.5 I know I definitely will use the new iPad Pro 10.5 a lot more because it will be replacing my Space Grey 64GB iPad Air 2 which I have had for nearly 2 years now and will still be keeping the Air 2 as a backup if the Pro 10.5 breaks or stops working.

I am interested in getting the new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB Space Grey as I think it will be a big upgrade from my iPad Air 2 64GB Space Grey because of how powerful it is and the bigger screen, the quad speakers set up and the better display and that legendary 10 hour battery life and IOS 11(when it comes in the fall) and all that awesome new features. :D:D

I know upgrading from an Air 2 to a new iPad Pro 10.5 it is not a massive upgrade but a least it will definitely be more of a upgrade compared to the last years iPad Pro 9.7.

I only use a iPad Air 2 as my main and primary computer and my smartphone Samsung Galaxy S6 is for when I am out of the house and use it at places like college, on the bus, waiting for the doctors, etc and I don't have any laptops/desktops and I have just a few old tablets that I have used from over the years but set it.

And I bought my Surface Pro 4 with my own money and at the moment I have pretty much wasted my money..... :(


Yeah I need some help/advice everyone. Should I sell my barely used Surface Pro 4 and get the new iPad Pro 10.5?? Or should I keep the Surface Pro 4 and try to get the my all time favourite old classic games(The Simpsons Hit & Run and the Incredibles, etc) and try to play them?? If you was in my shoes what would you do?? o_Oo_O
16 paragraphs to ask a forum to advise you on a simple purchase decision?
 

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Hey guys I got a Surface Pro (I5 Core/8GB of RAM/256GB of storage) with the type cover for my birthday 4 months ago in February and I really haven't used it as much as I thought I would.

I have only used the Pro 4 about 20 times in the last 4 months and at the moment it is just sitting on my table haven't used it in just over 3 weeks ago.


To be honest compared to my iPad Air 2 I don't really enjoy using the Surface Pro 4 especially as a tablet not that much, It is too heavy to use as a tablet you have to use it with 2 hands all the time and the Windows 10 OS is definitely not touch friendly and the apps from the App Store are garbage and crap! :(


And the main reason that I got the Surface Pro 4 is to play the my all time favourite classic old games like the The Simpsons Hit & Run and the Incredibles, Games like that but I still haven't got the games yet and I am not to sure if those games will even run properly on Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 4 or not but I might still get those games soon tho and also if I was still doing video editing(making YouTube videos) I would be using my Surface Pro 4 for that but I not at the moment but in the future I might start making YouTube videos again just not too sure...

And I have only used my Surface Pro 4 for watching videos, playing mobile games(that you get on IOS/Android) and web browsing and set it but for those things I would rather use my iPad Air 2.


The times I haven't used my Surface Pro 4, I have been using my really fantastic and awesome iPad Air 2 but I think if I did not have an iPad, I would of definitely used my Surface Pro 4 a lot more then I am now.

I so much more prefer and love using my iPad Air 2 because the tablet experience is definitely way more better and more enjoyable then a Surface Pro 4 because of touch friendly mobile OS IOS and the software the apps/games from the App Store are definitely sooo much more touch friendly and are just way more polished and high quality compared to the Surface Pro as the Windows software is basically designed for the mouse and keyboard from the ground up and the iPad Air 2 is so much more lighter and portable and you can use it in one hand as well. :D:D

But you would think that coming from a heavy and powerful 11.6 inch Acer Windows tablet(I5 core) from 5 years ago(which I still have) that I would use my Surface Pro 4 more then ever well unfortunately that is not the case but if I was to compare my old 11.6 inch Acer Windows 8 tablet to my Surface Pro 4, The Surface Pro 4 definitely wins and much more better in every single category(power, screen, battery life, weight, etc).


So I am thinking of selling my barely used Surface Pro 4(I5 Core/8GB of RAM/256GB of storage) with the type cover to my Mom and get myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB Space Grey despite my iPad Air 2 running very well.

And if I get the new iPad Pro 10.5 I know I definitely will use the new iPad Pro 10.5 a lot more because it will be replacing my Space Grey 64GB iPad Air 2 which I have had for nearly 2 years now and will still be keeping the Air 2 as a backup if the Pro 10.5 breaks or stops working.

I am interested in getting the new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB Space Grey as I think it will be a big upgrade from my iPad Air 2 64GB Space Grey because of how powerful it is and the bigger screen, the quad speakers set up and the better display and that legendary 10 hour battery life and IOS 11(when it comes in the fall) and all that awesome new features. :D:D

I know upgrading from an Air 2 to a new iPad Pro 10.5 it is not a massive upgrade but a least it will definitely be more of a upgrade compared to the last years iPad Pro 9.7.

I only use a iPad Air 2 as my main and primary computer and use it for things like web browsing, playing mobile games, watching videos, etc and my smartphone Samsung Galaxy S6 is for when I am out of the house and use it at places like college, on the bus, waiting for the doctors, etc and I don't have any laptops/desktops and I have just a few old tablets that I have used from over the years but set it.

And I bought my Surface Pro 4 with my own money and at the moment I have pretty much wasted my money..... :(


Yeah I need some help/advice everyone. Should I sell my barely used Surface Pro 4 and get the new iPad Pro 10.5?? Or should I keep the Surface Pro 4 and try to get the my all time favourite old classic games(The Simpsons Hit & Run and the Incredibles, etc) and try to play them?? If you was in my shoes what would you do?? o_Oo_O
I've had ipads in the past, and laptops. I also owned a SP4 too for a short time, and also did not enjoy using it as a tablet. Windows doesn't work well like that. I sold it and got myself an Ipad pro 10.5 256gb Cellular. I don't regret it. I use it a lot now! It goes where I go. I just got my smart keyboard and soon will get the pencil.
 
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Tmelon

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If I was you I would hang on to the Air 2 for another year. The current iPad Pro is definitely more powerful than the Air 2, but it doesn't sound like you would really use the "Pro" features and for things like email and web browsing the speed upgrade isn't all that noticeable unless you have them side by side. I wouldn't hesitate to sell the Surface Pro though if I was you. If you don't use it then you might as well sell it now while resell value is relatively high.
 

pinhead4ever

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I was in similar situation, bought SP4 few months ago. Returned SP4, then tried HP spectre x360. Returned spectre as well, bought ipad pro 10,5 256GB and 2017 macbook air to replace spectre. Air is for coding and content creation, ipad pro note taking and content consumption. Very happy now:)
 
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I personally think the 10.5 is the way to go. I had a 12" mac book that I never used except to edit photos and videos. I sold it. I had a 9.7 pro that I used every day until I filled up the 32gb capacity. I sold it. I know have my one and only primary device which is my 10.5. For me is it the best device for my lifestyle. The surface pro is nice but I'm not a fan of windows anymore. There is a rare occasion where I need to use windows to dowlonad or update something so I just borrow a friends pc for 5 min and done. Lol get the pro! But don't get the base storage version!
 
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LibbyLA

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I have a Surface Pro 3, Surface 3, iPP 9.7, and iPP 10.5. The main reason to keep the SP is if you need to run Windows programs. The statistical program that I teach runs only on Windows, so the SP3 and the S3 are necessities for me if I want something that runs my statistical software and full versions of MS Office.

If you have no reason to run Windows software, then the SP is probably not that useful to you.
 

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As a user of the Surface Pro 3 and 4 (I had them for work until i gave up and went back to a regular laptop due to firmware bugs and reliability problems; I RMA'd 2 of them due to failures) my suggestion is this:

If you do not need windows specific applications, no contest. The iPad Pro is superior in every way that counts. Battery battery life, better pencil (vs surface stylus), the apple keyboard cover is way better than the surface type cover, the OS actually has touch friendly applications that are useful, etc.

If you do need Windows applications, you're SOL and I'm sorry. Windows specific applications is the ONLY reason you'd want to be running a Surface in my opinion.

To echo others above: the Surface Pro is a decent Ultra-portable Laptop (reliability problems, wake from sleep bugs, and other problems I had notwithstanding) - but it's complete trash as a tablet.

Put it this way:

I tried to use an SP3 and SP4 at work in meetings and stuff. In reality, wake from sleep bugs, garbage battery life and lack of touch friendly applications killed the idea.

I'm using my iPad Pro 10.5 for this exact purpose since day of release, quite happily.

OneNote for note taking/scribbling stuff, email, calendar, etc.

I was in a similar situation to yourself (my SP3s and SP4s were "free" work machines). I upgraded from an iPad 4, and the iPad Pro 10.5 is my only tablet now. I'm happy with it.
 
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I have an Acer Switch Alpha i5 8gb RAM 256GB SSD, I use it only for my iPad backups, Windows Store is a joke, and I have everything I need under Apple store. Right now I'm using my iPad as my main computer. I'm a IT Manager, if this helps you. I'm planning to move to an iPad 12.9 in the future as my only device and get rid of the unused windows Acer. iOS has envolved so much that most people find that the OS and available apps are enough for them.
 
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Windows isn't what it used to be. It's made strides and it's much more efficient. It's matured and still Offers similarities over iOS.

That said, ShaunAFC, I think you would appreciate the transition from your Surface Pro to the iPad. When iOS 11 officially launches in the Fall, the transition will be that much better of an experience, especially if you add the Smart Keyboard, it will better your capabilities.
 
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throAU

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Yeah windows 10 has advanced, but there are still bugs.

If you're after a seamless experience, Windows 10 on Surface is not it.

E.g., at least for the last few months i had my SP4, before giving up... If you undock it and fold the cover up too quick (e.g., get up from your desk with your SP4 to go into a meeting), basically you kill its ability to wake from sleep - unless you wait for it to figure its hardware state out before closing the cover. Which is kinda annoying when you lose all your work because you need to hard power cycle it to get the thing to work again.

That sort of stuff just doesn't happen with the iPad.
 

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I tried to use an SP3 and SP4 at work in meetings and stuff. In reality, wake from sleep bugs, garbage battery life and lack of touch friendly applications killed the idea.
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I'm using my iPad Pro 10.5 for this exact purpose since day of release, quite happily.
OneNote for note taking/scribbling stuff, email, calendar, etc.
What missing touch friendly apps "killed the idea" of using your Surface Pro 3/4 for meetings?
Glad you can use oneNote on your ipad--won't find that on the Surface pro!
 
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throAU

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What missing touch friendly apps "killed the idea" of using your Surface Pro 3/4 for meetings?
Glad you can use oneNote on your ipad--won't find that on the Surface pro!
I don't JUST use the device for meetings.

However, as mentioned, the major reason I gave up on it for THAT was the inability to reliably wake from sleep without needing a hard power off when un-docked and "closed", the craptapstic battery life and with the SP3 in the particular the total lack of reliability of leaving it on charge, at work on the dock all weekend. Several times I'd arrive to work, find the dock crapped out and it hadn't charged all weekend - and i had 5% left on the device for a Monday morning meeting.

The fact that the iPad has a far better touch version of Office than the Surface Pro is a disgrace.
 

ctrlzone

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barely used? sell it!

since you liked your iPad air, you wont regret buying the new iPad pro imo
 

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Sounds like you've already made up your mind, as the others have said.

I had an iPad Pro, but found that all I could use it for was consumption (something you want to do 99% of the time). For that, its great.

Look at it this way - do you want a laptop first or a tablet first?

For me, it was a no brainer. I sold my iPad Pro and picked up the SP4 and haven't looked back. I need it to work and connect to applications at work, including doing some coding and testing. In my spare time, I can read graphic novels on it or even draw and take notes. Works perfectly.

If you don't need a computer for anything else, get an iPad!

Although, if I was you, I'd just save my money and use the Air 2 and get a job instead. Seems like your parents are a bit over indulgent, because these are the dilemmas that always show up when you have too much time and money on your hands and no work :)
 

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I didn't really have the heart or intestinal fortitude to read that huge post

Here's my $.02.
If you want to run desktop quality apps, or use a mouse (touch pad), or access USB drives/peripherals then get the Surface Pro

If usage is mostly tablet mode, and mostly content consumption, then get the iPad.

windows in of itself is very good, stable, and fast. The surface pro has a lot going for it, but its not for everyone.
 
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pika2000

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The utilization of the Surface Pro 4 relies if you use the stylus or not. If yes, it's an okay device. If not, ditch it and get a regular laptop plus an actual tablet (like the iPad).