Should I upgrade to Mojave?

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Hello Forum, long time no see.
I'm currently using a 2016 15" MBP.
I'm still using Sierra 10.12.6 on it, but I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Mojave, or just stay true to Sierra since "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
 

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Apple typically provides security updates for the three most recent version of macOS. When Catalina comes out. Which is soon. Sierra will likely stop receiving security updates. If you want your OS to remain secure. I would update. Although you may want to go ahead and update to Catalina when it is released. Just be sure you no aren't using any 32 bit apps. As Mojave is the last macOS with 32 bit support.

Do go into the App Store and get Mojave now. You don't have to upgrade right away you can just download the installer and quit it when it opens after the download. It'll just make life easier to have it on your account before Catalina comes out. As Apple makes it a pain to find prior versions of macOS.

Not updating the OS also has software support issues. Mostly with programs which are updated frequently like web browsers. Eventually the major browsers will drop Sierra support.

Before upgrading check that all your software (version specific) is compatible with Mojave or Catalina. Also verify any printers or peripherals are compatible. Most will work with Mojave if they worked in Sierra. Catalina is more iffy due to the 64 bit only requirements.
 

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How is the MBP running now?
Does everything work?
No problems?
Are you happy with "things as they are"?

I have a 2015 MBP that still runs fine on El Capitan.
Because "it still runs fine", I have no plans to upgrade the OS further at this time.
 
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I see no reason not to upgrade to Mojave. I have the latest version on a Mac Pro 5,1 and a 2013 rMBP, plus my wife is running it on her 2017 MBA with no problems on any of them. Suggest backing up your system by cloning your hard drive with SuperDuper or CCC first.
 

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For lots of reasons I like to stay current. But even if you don't, you may want to download each of the subsequent OSs for future use. For a few GBs of storage, this expands your options going forward. And in any event, @MSastre has good advice. Many people "stay behind" because of software compatibility and if that's the case you never know what won't work until you get there. Without a clone it may be all but impossible to go back.
 
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Hello Forum, long time no see.
I'm currently using a 2016 15" MBP.
I'm still using Sierra 10.12.6 on it, but I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Mojave, or just stay true to Sierra since "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Use cases aside, I would suggest at least considering migrating to High Sierra in the next few months. Sierra is about to fall out of the security patch cycle.

Apple's policy is to support the latest, and the previous two operating systems. So when Catalina comes out, High Sierra and Mojave will be on security-patch releases, and Sierra will be EOL.

Figured you might appreciate the security perspective. :D
 
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Use cases aside, I would suggest at least considering migrating to High Sierra in the next few months. Sierra is about to fall out of the security patch cycle.

Apple's policy is to support the latest, and the previous two operating systems. So when Catalina comes out, High Sierra and Mojave will be on security-patch releases, and Sierra will be EOL.

Figured you might appreciate the security perspective. :D
Yeah security is my only concern, and from what I see Mojave doesn't really have particular features that would make me switch. Maybe High Sierra is the real answer.

Verify apps you use are compatible with Mojave at https://roaringapps.com/
oh, very nice tool, thank you!
 
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How is the MBP running now?
Does everything work?
No problems?
Are you happy with "things as they are"?

I have a 2015 MBP that still runs fine on El Capitan.
Because "it still runs fine", I have no plans to upgrade the OS further at this time.
Me too! However, I have a 2015 MBA on El Captain.

The reason I hesitate to upgrade is when I had an 2008 MBPro. It was fine with SnowLeopard XOS. I upgraded to Mavericks and the motherboard died. Fortunately, Apple still was servicing my 2008 computers and replaced it for a reasonable fee. When it was returned, I kept SL on it until El Capitan was released. It ran fine later, I sold it.
 
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CoastalOR

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I thought there was a 10.14.7 release.
Where did you get this from?
Catalina will be released the end of Sep. 2019. We are less than 2 months away. I do not see were Apple would fit in a 10.14.7 release unless there is a major problem that needs to be fixed and I have not seen posts on the forum about major issues with 10.14.6.
 
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kohlson

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I thought there was a 10.14.7 release.
MR generally reports on the various beta releases leading up to a production release. If you start seeing something about 10.14.7 beta, that's your heads up that somethings coming. But in the last couple of major releases, dot-6 has been the last.
 

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The reason I hesitate to upgrade is when I had an 2008 MBPro. It was fine with SnowLeopard XOS. I upgraded to Mavericks and the motherboard died. Fortunately, Apple still was servicing my 2008 computers and replaced it for a reasonable fee. When it was returned, I kept SL on it until El Capitan was released. It ran fine later, I sold it.
Mid-2010 MBP 15" here... When I updated from SL to Mavericks, I kept getting random reboots that became predictable and easily reproducible which proves otherwise on SL... Must be something about the codes on Mavericks. Fortunately, I bugged Apple long enough for them to replace my mainboard FOC on my 4th year, way out of AppleCare coverage.
 

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I did a full, clean install of Mojave 10.14.6 about three days ago - no Time machine restorations .. I completely re-installed every app I need to use. This install I CCC cloned to my HFS+ Samsung 970 EVO - Security seems tighter in Mail re: Tusted Certificates but apart from that Zero problems so far.

Apple has since released a supplemental update and a new full installer so today I downloaded the updated - ever so slightly larger - full installer and did another full, 100% clean install to a spare ssd which is formatted to APFS. Clean install of my important apps too.

I'll wait a couple of weeks and if satisfied will CCC clone today's install also to a HFS+ spare Samsung 970 EVO.
 
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Yeah security is my only concern, and from what I see Mojave doesn't really have particular features that would make me switch. Maybe High Sierra is the real answer.
The one thing to remember about High Sierra is that you'll be in the exact same pickle a year from now because 10.13 will be obsolete with the release of 10.16 in September of 2020.

Personally, if I weren't running 10.13 already I would probably not bother updating to anything less than 10.14 at this point. 10.13 is on the verge of obsolenscence.
 
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How is the MBP running now?
Does everything work?
No problems?
Are you happy with "things as they are"?

I have a 2015 MBP that still runs fine on El Capitan.
Because "it still runs fine", I have no plans to upgrade the OS further at this time.
Good thinking. I have external SSD that have EC, Sierra, HS and Mojave on them and the internal Fusion Drive still have Mountain Lion on it. Believe it or not, ML runs the iMac faster and smoother than any of the others. But then Safari and Chrome are just unusable. Just for fun I DL Waterfox and it does a very very fine job on Mountain Lion. Just to say that if n OS runs so fine on a machine, there may be no reason to rush to an upgrade. BTW, Mojave on an external SSD is the solution for me and it runs pretty fine.
 

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I did a full, clean install of Mojave 10.14.6 about three days ago - no Time machine restorations .. I completely re-installed every app I need to use. This install I CCC cloned to my HFS+ Samsung 970 EVO - Security seems tighter in Mail re: Tusted Certificates but apart from that Zero problems so far.

Apple has since released a supplemental update and a new full installer so today I downloaded the updated - ever so slightly larger - full installer and did another full, 100% clean install to a spare ssd which is formatted to APFS. Clean install of my important apps too.

I'll wait a couple of weeks and if satisfied will CCC clone today's install also to a HFS+ spare Samsung 970 EVO.

Just wondering, what's the aversion to APFS?
[doublepost=1564791581][/doublepost]I loved 10.12, .13 was meh. .14 has been fantastic on my real and hackintosh machines.
 

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I did a clean install when moving from HS to Mojave (.2)
I’d upgraded from El Cap through Sierra and to High Sierra and was having significant stability problems.

But Mojave has been rock solid. I’m on 10.14.5 though. My experiences with High Sierra made me appreciate stability. I’ll go to 10.14.6 in a few weeks perhaps. Loosely as advised above, I have downloads of various versions of Sierra, High Sierra, and Mojave on file. Just in case. And Time Machine backups so I can roll back if needed.
 

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I just migrated my 12 core 5,1 Mac Pro from Sierra to Mojave about two weeks ago. Although getting there was a chore due to firmware updates the Mac Pro required, I am happy to report the machine is running better than ever. The update resolved a bothersome 4k laggy GUI issue I experienced under Sierra (possibly due to using an active DP to HDMI converter that is no longer required) and everything else seems fine. Mojave throws "This software is not optimized for your Mac" warnings when booting some software (32 bit, I presume) for the first or second time, but that bother is soon left in the rear-view mirror. This will likely be a major issue with Catalina, but I don't plan on taking my Mac Pro beyond Mojave, the last officially-supported OS for the 5,1.

I second MJ_'s advice: if you are going to go thru the trouble of updating your OS, go all the way to Mojave.
 
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Mid-2010 MBP 15" here... When I updated from SL to Mavericks, I kept getting random reboots that became predictable and easily reproducible which proves otherwise on SL... Must be something about the codes on Mavericks. Fortunately, I bugged Apple long enough for them to replace my mainboard FOC on my 4th year, way out of AppleCare coverage.
Maybe I should have been more persistent like you because I had the restarts and kernel panic attacks as well with Mavericks. I feel that I do not need "extras" with subsequent OS X after El Captain. I probably will keep it on El Capitan until I decide to get a new computer.
 
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I second MJ_'s advice: if you are going to go thru the trouble of updating your OS, go all the way to Mojave.
Personally, I had less trouble with High Sierra on HFS+ than Mojave on APFS. (random kernel panics after wake up from sleep which forced me to reformat my SSD already twice in three months). High Sierra 10.13.6 is rock solid and much better than Sierra. Fingers crossed that the last update of Mojave will solve the annoying bugs.
 
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