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Should I upgrade to OS X 10.5 Leopard?
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What are you talking about? I purchased my iMac three months ago, and do you think I'm doing it for no reason? You want me to run 10.8 on my mac? The maximum it can run is 10.5, so, I don't see your point
You want me to upgrade right?
What are you talking about? I purchased my iMac three months ago, and do you think I'm doing it for no reason? You want me to run 10.8 on my mac? The maximum it can run is 10.5, so, I don't see your point
His point is that instead of using OS X 10.5, why don't you use Linux, which is more up to date.
My personal response to that is: I prefer the Mac OS. I have used Linux on x86 and PowerPC hardware. I prefer Mac OS X. If I want to use Linux, I wouldn't get a Mac.
I'm too busy to be playing around with Linux. Plus, I just don't like it.
Linux never became the magical alternative to Windows and Mac OS that it's adopters prophesied.
Linux never became the magical alternative to Windows and Mac OS that it's adopters prophesied.
That's why I don't like PCs. You only choose Windows or Linux, and they both are too bad to be useable. I prefer Mac OS, that's way better, way more stable.
Before this turns into a flame war, I think we should note that for some people, Linux works.
You should think about WHY you would want Leopard vs. Tiger. If it's for the added features such as Time Machine, Quick Look, Spaces, etc. then you will want to seriously consider Leopard, even on a lower spec machine. However, if you want speed from the OS without having to mess with turning things off, then Leopard is not for you on a 1 GHz iMac. Leopard will run slower, no way around that (other than disabling things as has been suggested). I have the same iMac you have, and for a while I ran Leopard on it, but eventually went back to Tiger, because it was noticeably slower with Leopard, AND I really did not need the added features of Leopard as compared to Tiger. I don't use that mac any longer, but the only PPC Mac I would install Leopard on is a G5, which has the processing power to handle the greater 'bulk' of Leopard.I have an iMac G4 1GHz with 512MB of memory. When I purchased it used, it was running 10.3.8, then, I upgraded two months ago to 10.4.11. Now, this is my only computer at this moment, and the next computer I will purchase will be an iBook G3. I heard 10.5.8 can run the latest version of Safari (v5) and even older versions of Google Chrome, which is my favorite browser. Should I first upgrade to 1 or 2GB of memory before I install Leopard? Because I'm impatient and I like fast computers.
If you are looking for fast and up to date web browsing, there are several options other than Safari as have been mentioned. I happen to like Camino. I find it faster than TenFourFox, but others like the latter better. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your perspective), Apple has tied each major version of Safari to the operating system. So, the only version they are serious about updating (with few exceptions) is the one on Mountain Lion. So, with any PPC mac, you can forget Safari and use something else that is still supported.
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Agreed, but why would you shell out the money for a Mac to run Linux vs. buying a pc and running Linux?
I wouldn't, which is why I use OS X on my Macs. Maybe some people prefer the hardware, I don't know. I don't really care what hardware is in my machine, as long as it runs OS X.
6 years old vs 8 years old, there was still a hell of a lot of dev work that went into those two years. And if I remember correctly, PPC Leopard even got a security update from Apple last year. Far more third party developers who still develop for PowerPC do it with 10.5 being required, there's just so much more underlying framework that Tiger doesn't have.
And this.
I agree here... I will say I've tried Lubuntu 12.04 on my 1GHz eMac... software support was hideous to say the least, Linux support on x86 isn't absolutely horrible, but it's complete s*** as far as PPC Linux goes, it's even extremely sparse compared to what PPC OS X has. Hell, Panther runs more.
Fragmentation... lack of support... it varies of course, but PowerPC distros of Linux are the absolute epitome of every weak point of Linux, with the possible exception of "'security' by obscurity".
Yeah some of those features, especially if you really *are* super budget constrained and the only Mac you can afford to own is something like a 533MHz G4 tower and want all the features you can get without caring for speed.
Or a dual CPU G4 with a Core Image graphics card and 1GB+ of memory. Upgrading my 466MHz G4 with Leopard from the oldschool ATI Rage 16MB graphics card to a 128MB Radeon 9600 XT gave it an insane speed boost. Kind of like when I initially upgraded the same machine under Tiger from 256MB of memory to 768MB or 1GB or something.
Ok, I'm enough with Mac vs Linux war. Please stop, it's already enough for me... By the way, the web browser you suggested for me for Leopard, is there the same browser but for Tiger?
There is TenFourKit, which is similar, but its last update was in September. Also, there aren't any extensions and there's no ad blocking. There's a Webkit browser called OmniWeb that's been around since the NeXT days. It also has ad blocking and flash blocking. However, TenFourFox runs the best on my iBook G4 with Tiger, and with some extensions (Adblock Plus, Flashblock, Quicktime Enabler, NoScript) and a few about:config tweaks from a list by another user on the forum, it runs quite fast. However, NoScript is kind of a pain to configure the whitelist, but with sites that don't need it, stopping JavaScript (not related to Java, by the way) speeds stuff up. Also, to the people complaining about security holes: I use my iBook daily with TenFourFox set up with enabled plugins. However, Java's still turned off, and Flash is blocked by default with Flashblock. As long as you start the firewall and turn on stealth mode in Settings, nobody's getting into your Mac.
Just downloaded it, seems cool. I wonder, is there any TenFourChrome or something?
There's Stainless, which is something similar, but it uses the system (out of date) WebKit and needs Mac OS X Leopard to run. Tenfourfox is good enough for most people. Did you check out eyoungren's optimization thread? My speed almost doubled after applying these tweaks.
Seriously?
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/MacBuildInstructions
Prerequisites
- An Intel Mac running 10.6 (Snow Leopard), 10.7, or 10.8. V8 does not support PowerPC, 10.5 ("Leopard") is unable to link the larger Chromium libraries, and the code does not link with linker gcc included with any Xcode version less than 3.2.6
If you are definitely going to upgrade to Leopard, definitely you should put in as much ram as you can and make it do it's best.
Leopard doesn't get the latest version of Safari, it goes up to version 5 I think (I just upgraded a MacBook from leopard to snow leopard). It doesn't get the latest iTunes either but it has the latest iTunes 10 I think. Weather you're on Tiger or Leopard though I'd recommend OmniWeb as the browser, it's very fast like Chrome and supports a whole bunch of add-ons and customizations.
Leopard doesn't get the latest version of Safari, it goes up to version 5 I think (I just upgraded a MacBook from leopard to snow leopard). It doesn't get the latest iTunes either but it has the latest iTunes 10 I think. Weather you're on Tiger or Leopard though I'd recommend OmniWeb as the browser, it's very fast like Chrome and supports a whole bunch of add-ons and customizations.