Should I wait for the 2016 Retina MacBook?

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by Truefan31, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. Truefan31 macrumors 68040


    Aug 25, 2012
    So I've read that most should wait for version 2. Thinking better processor (maybe sky lake), and a big one imo, a second type c port. Better camera( maybe 720p). Anyone else waiting for version 2?
  2. relbhcb macrumors newbie

    Aug 16, 2011
  3. MyopicPaideia macrumors 68000


    Mar 19, 2011
    San Diego, CA
    Agree with @relbhcb - more than happy with the v1 1.3.

    That said, the significant upgrade will be TB3/USB-C in a single port alongside the Skylake processor. Nothing else will change, though.

    Edit - it will probably get a 720p FaceTime camera too.
  4. Rusty33 macrumors 6502


    Jul 8, 2011
    I too am biding my time for rev 2. My 2010 Mbp still has some fight left in her...but not much.
  5. Ghost31 macrumors 68000


    Jun 9, 2015
    I don't think it will be as big of an upgrade as some people are hoping for. Second type c port? Doubtful. Apple is making a big deal about the single usb c port and how we shouldn't even need that because we live in a wireless world.

    Expect this realistically: processor speed bump and a 720p FaceTime camera. And that's it. I think it's gonna be such an underwhelming upgrade that people waiting for v2 will see it and regret not just getting the first one
  6. Truefan31 thread starter macrumors 68040


    Aug 25, 2012
    Didn't the mba have 1 port in version 1 too though? Not saying there will be a 2nd usb c port but it could happen. I know some were saying they wanted to be able to charge and use peripherals natively without adapters.

    I love the form factor. But a 480p camera is atrocious on a 1300 laptop
  7. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

    T'hain Esh Kelch

    Aug 5, 2001
    I absolutely agree. I also don't think we will see TB3, but I am crossing my fingers for it.

    I think Skylake will be nice enough to warrant the wait. I'll pick one up at least, no matter how small the upgrade will be. :)
  8. Niarlatop macrumors member

    May 13, 2015
    I returned my v1, I'm waiting for v2 with TB3 before considering this MacBook.

    The day it can display on an external 4K screen at 60 Hz, I'll buy it again. The Retina screen is great but not enough for some tasks, and I can't work anymore on an external non-Retina screen under OS X. Fonts are way too blurry, even compared to Windows or Linux.
  9. solaris macrumors 6502a


    Apr 19, 2004
    Oslo, Norway
    I am indeed waiting out for version 2, and the only reason is Skylake. Until that happends, hopefully this fall, my 2011 MBA 13" get the job done.
  10. zhenya macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2005
    I agree with this. I think it will be a processor upgrade and maybe a camera upgrade. The processor upgrade will be basically not noticeable under standard usage - the only thing it should bring is full 60hz 4k support.
  11. yann33 macrumors newbie

    Jul 12, 2013
    for all the talk of waiting for Skylake for other mac models, the Y-series processors used in the rMBs seem to be the ones improving the most this new generation (CPU up 17% compared to around 10% for rMBPs, iMacs and MBAs - and GPU up 41% compared to 16%, 22% and 34% respectively - and +1.4hrs of battery life). combine that with TB3 and 4K@60hz, i wouldn't necessarily call that underwhelming, even without a 720p camera.

    of course, coming from a 2010 MPB 15", i'd love to see them add a 14" model that would have the footprint of the 13"MBA (in the same way that the 12" is closer to the 11"MBA that the 13" one). and maybe that extra space could translate into a second USB-C port and a 720p camera :) ahh, wishful thinking...
  12. polee macrumors 6502a


    Jul 22, 2008
    I could not wait for v2. When the rmb was released in April, I just had to get it.
  13. thmshale macrumors member


    Jun 18, 2013
    This, and hopefully a price drop.
  14. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    I agree that a second USB-C port is unlikely. We haven't seen the low-power Skylake chips yet, but the high-end desktop version was just released, and AnandTech's benchmarks showed only a 4% increase in CPU performance MHz for MHz against Broadwell. The GPU was a different story, though.

    It's possible that Apple will upgrade the USB-C to Thunderbolt 3, but my guess is that will be limited to the 2016 rMBP if it shows up at all next year. Apple might migrate the MacBook to Thunderbolt 3, but I'm guessing it's down the road a bit.
  15. Dayv macrumors 6502

    Aug 18, 2009
    I don't even think a camera upgrade in the second rev is likely. They didn't hold back on a 720p camera to have a feature to upgrade, they did it because they couldn't get a 720p camera to fit in the display. I'd bet the camera gets upgraded in rev 3.
  16. mgpg89 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 31, 2008
    My rev1 1.3 is my favorite notebook ever.
    So no, go for it. It's exactly what a laptop should be.
    (except for the camera obviously, but hardly using that anyway ... all my FaceTiming is done via my iPhone)
  17. thadoggfather macrumors G3


    Oct 1, 2007
    yeah i love this machine too, go for v1 now if you need a laptop now

    substantial upgrade for my uses over 2011 13" Air, which I loved up until this year
  18. EsspeN macrumors newbie

    Nov 2, 2010
    I was waiting for this macbook for years since i had 2010 air 11" i wanted to upgrade.
    But after it was launched i was so disappointed with the specs i just didnt want it at all.

    ended up buying it a few weeks ago and I'm very satisfied with it. Got the 1,1 basic model. It was a upgrade for me and the 2010 air look so ugly when i compare them.

    It does everything i want. its my primary computer actually, so was my 2010 air.
  19. dampfnudel macrumors 68030

    Aug 14, 2010
    Brooklyn, NY
    I think v2 of the MacBook will feature more than just an upgrade to Skylake. 720p FaceTime camera is likely, 2nd USB-C port is less likely unless you count a possible 14" model which probably could accommodate two USB-C ports. I think the MacBook is destined to replace the MBA and that would require a 14" model to truly replace the 13" MBA. If it doesn't happen next year, it will definitely happen in 2017. I'm betting on next year. So possibly by the end of next year we'll see both the 11" and 13" MBA discontinued, 14" MacBook with Skylake, 720p FaceTime camera and 2 USB-C ports introduced and v2 of the 12" MacBook with Skylake, 720p FT and 1 or 2 USB-C ports. Maybe 100-200 dollars off.
  20. MyopicPaideia macrumors 68000


    Mar 19, 2011
    San Diego, CA
    Yeah, like I said, I think it will get the TB3/USB-C port, but remain at only 1. Skylake supports it, and every Mac notebook has TB, I think that will continue. The only reason the rMB doesn't is because the TB1/TB2 mDP port form factor didn't fit. The elegant TB3/USB-C integrated solution is perfect for the rMB, and very, very Apple. This will also allow 4k @ 60Hz as others have mentioned.

    720p Camera is a given if it actually does fit, I think it will.

    That said, I don't FaceTime or Skype on the laptop, I don't own and have never used a TB peripheral, and have never once connected my laptops to an external display...

    So in just my personal use case, the v2 upgrade won't be compelling, even though the USB 3.1 Gen 2 will also come with the new TB3/USB-C port. I'm good until at least v3 and then who knows, there might even be a 14" model to look at! Still might prefer the 12", it seems the perfect size to me, but maybe!
  21. Aetles macrumors regular


    Nov 13, 2002
    It is usually the sane thing to do, lowering the expectations of Apple upgrades, since people have a tendency to run amok with wishful thinking and not being realistic. But in the special case of the "1st generation future-looking underpowered, overpriced but still awesome" Apple products there has generally been great upgrades in the second generation. The second generation has also clearly been a better buy than the first one. Just look 1st generation vs 2nd generation of MacBook Air and iPad. The 2nd generation iPhone was aslo much improved. Even the first generation of Retina MacBook Pro followed the same path if I remember it correctly.

    Still though, this is an upgrade, not a revolution. It would be really great if Apple added another USB C-port (or even better, Thunderbolt 3) – I do think the single port was a mistake in the first generation – but I file that as wishful thinking for now.
  22. barefeats macrumors 65816


    Jul 6, 2000
    My needs are simple. I want a 14-inch Retina MacBook with Thunderbolt 3, 10Mbps USB 3.1, 16G of RAM, and 2000MBps Flash Storage. Call it a MacBook "Semi Pro."
  23. mattwolfmatt macrumors 65816


    Jun 7, 2008
    The fact that I can not run two external displays is a deal breaker for me. If v2 gets another port, I'd do it. Hopefully!
  24. Wallabe macrumors 6502a

    Mar 15, 2015
    2015 Macbook < 2016 Macbook < 2017 Macbook < 2018 Macbook < ...

    Which one are you going to wait to get? If it's sufficient for your needs, get it. A more powerful CPU won't matter if all you're doing is listening to iTunes, watch movies, browse website, and emails. If you need serious computing power, you're looking at the wrong product.
  25. taberrr macrumors regular

    Jun 19, 2007

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