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I read on other sites that this graphics card required a 450 watt power supply but Apple's website says the Mac Pro has a 300W Power Supply.

Macpro has a 1100W power supply if my memory serves me right,correct if I am wrong.
People have run a 8800GTS and a 7300GT in it without problems in windows enviroments. And if i remember right the x1900 power requirements are around 110W so you certainly are sorted..



And G4DP, yeah,I tried to state that it might be a long shot, but I have heard about two non liquid cooled G5s that have been replaced with macpros,so it might be worth a shot?
I mean,if your system is up and running, why not wait for another 2-3 weeks and give it a try?
Different thing is if he is loosing thousands of dollars in productivity every time he changes his display port.
 
Macinposh,

Replacing a G5 is one thing, getting hold of the logic board etc is now so expensive for Apple it is cheaper for them to replace it with a MacPro. However to replace a video card in what is still the current MacPro will cost them nothing.

Also if he is losing £1000 then he wouldn't even be posting this thread the MacPro would have been straight in for repair.
 
However to replace a video card in what is still the current MacPro will cost them nothing.

Hmm,is your reading comprehension a bit rusty or is it my writing?
I am at this point talking about replacing his logicboard on his MP,not his videocard. As you can read he as well has doubts about if it the videocard that is faulty at all, or is it the logic (mother) board.

If it is the mobo,it is a bit different ballgame then.Agree?

And that gives us a reason for some specualtion (wich I have tried to state here all the time) as I have tried to do here.


Also if he is losing £1000 then he wouldn't even be posting this thread the MacPro would have been straight in for repair.

No *****,sherlock?

I recommend that you up your ante in the fields of huomor,sarcasm and general reading thingies.

Love.
 
That's what I get for typing most of my repsonses in the middle of the night.

I'm using an Acer 24" 2416WB and I stand corrected, it's a DVI connection. Another discepancy I noticed in my postings is that my AppleCare runs through September '08, not Sept '09.

However, I'm getting tempted by both the Samsung and HannsG 28" monitors which are now both sub $600 and both have HDMI connections. But, this is another story for another day ;)

I guess the chances at this point of it being the video card are pretty slim since the original has been replaced and I'm still having the same problem. In my mind, I've got three areas to narrow it down to: DVI cord, Monitor, logicboard and/or power supply.

As for the problem being any one of the above mentioned items, I'm not too worried since I bought the monitor at Costco and they have an infinite return policy and at least 8 more months to go on my AppleCare.
 
Macinposh, why so hostile you not getting any?

For Apple to replace anything on a current mac pro will cost then next to nothing.
 
I'd try moving the card from one slot to the next just to see if perhaps you have a bad PCIe slot.


Also going back to the "low end-ness" of the 7300 and the 75W power deal....

I think a lot of the forum members here do want to have a complete understanding of how all the widgets in the computer work, but a lot of times things become a lot more "black and white" when there's a new technology comes out that the newest Macs don't have. By black and white I mean, we can't possibly get along with what we have now we must have the new thing (no offense to the anyone, but see the thread where the guy got a new Mac Pro from his girlfriend).

The slot itself isn't limiting what cards Apple can use in any way. They can just connect an additional power line to the card from the power supply. PCIe 2.0 does increase the maximum power supplied (by defining a wider trace for more current capacity, this is something that can be done with PCIe 1.0 mind you like DFI did with it's Socket AM2 Infinity NF4 board) but thats about all it's good for at the moment. Of course, to make it more "Apple-esque" they'd probably just tag on another power connector on the motherboard as they did in the ADC days.

Low end cards do tend to be low power, but thats mostly because of how cut down they are compared to the high end cards of the generation. They also tend to be the testbed for die shrinks so the "low end" card will often times have the more advanced process. The Radeon HD 2600Pro/XT for example was the testbed for the 65nm process that was then used to make the HD 2900Pro. Die shrinks create cooler chips. As a result the 2600Pro draws around 26W.

For Apple, the reasons they use the 7300 could be:

A. they have a contract for X number of units or for X period of time.
B. they're going to use new cards as an incentive to buy the new Mac Pros coming out.
C. they're dirt cheap these days (not that they were really ever expensive).

My bet is on B & C.

The 7300 fits the crowd they market the machine to (professionals, hence Mac Pro). They don't mind fleecing you for a better card at all. The Mac isn't a gaming platform of choice per se so they can get away with it.

Of course, this is no different from what any company does. Any PC website/user that lambastes Apple for doing so should take a look at what Dell does with it's base XPS "gaming" Deskops come with Radeon HD 2400s and Intel Integrated Graphics. Same as in the "lower end" Inspirons.
 
I'd try moving the card from one slot to the next just to see if perhaps you have a bad PCIe slot.

I work really close to home so while I was at home on my lunch hour I swapped slots. The more I think about it though is that even if the lines reappear it still doesn't tell me if it isn't the monitor or the dvi cord or for that matter the motherboard. I suppose if it does go away then I know it's a bad slot and I could still take it back to my local Apple store and tell them I have a bad slot on the motherboard.

I think I'd have a legitimate claim to have the entire MB relaced if it has a bad slot and I'm still under warranty. I don't think they'd say, "Well, since you only have 1 PCIe card (video) just swap it to the next port."
 
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