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Should iPad Pro 9.7 users upgrade to iOS 10?

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freddisier

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as we all know iOS 10 is coming in the matter of days. I'm just wondering if people with iPad Pro 9.7 should upgrade?

I'm quite worried about upgrading cos I'm afraid my iPad would be crippled by the new OS. Just like how my iPhone 6 is much much slower ever since I upgraded to iOS 9. Also the iPhone 7 plus has 3 gb of ram so the iOS 10 might have been designed with that in mind, especially for devices bigger than the iPhone. Am I being paranoid?

What do you guys think?
 
Well if you're going to purchase the new iPhone 7 / 7s AND you only want to carry one set of earphones you'll need to update to iOS 10 for new lightning adapter ones to work on the the 9.7" iPP.
 
I'm not too worried about 10, but at the same time I don't miss any of its new "features" when switching between my pro and my iPhone running iOS 10beta.

I've given up on wanting to be able to downgrade, but now I can't even not upgrade in the first place without daily nag screens and repeated auto downloads. When iOS 11 or 12 rolls around I basically have no choice but to accept whatever Apple wants to push to my device. :(
 
Let's get real. A less than 1 year old device should not, and will know, have any issues with the latest OS version. I don't know why people here are always so worried about updating their device. Updates are meant to help, not hurt.
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stevemiller said:
I've given up on wanting to be able to downgrade, but now I can't even not upgrade in the first place without daily nag screens and repeated auto downloads. When iOS 11 or 12 rolls around I basically have no choice but to accept whatever Apple wants to push to my device. :(
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You make it sound like they're sending you malware. A 3 or 4 year old device suffers from some slight lag at times and people act like it's been rendered inoperable.
 
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joeblow7777 said:
Let's get real. A less than 1 year old device should not, and will know, have any issues with the latest OS version. I don't know why people here are always so worried about updating their device. Updates are meant to help, not hurt.
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You make it sound like they're sending you malware. A 3 or 4 year old device suffers from some slight lag at times and people act like it's been rendered inoperable.
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My iPad 3 barely got used after iOS 8 because typing in it had such bad lag. I updated to an iPhone 6 not because I wanted anything it was offering but because my 4S (which I loved) had become so unpleasant.

I'm not hypothesizing what would bug me, I'm speaking from experience. I'm also not telling you what is and isn't ok for you. It's great if the options of "buy a newer device or live with 'slight-lag' on older hardware" work for you.

But for me i was not happy with how it degraded my devices responsiveness. I'd just like the option of "run an older OS without daily nag screen" even if it comes at the expense of latest patches (which you'll forego anyway if you use a device that isn't supported anymore).

I'd probably update after 3-4 years for a refreshed battery anyway, just let me make my own decision on the trade offs of updating in the interim.

An honest question, if it's simply "wrong" not to run the latest version, should any phone not supported by the update simply be bricked? Should there even be a nag screen and not a straight forced update the next time the device reboots? If you're going to take the hard line, make it truly a hard line.
 
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An honest question, if it's simply "wrong" not to run the latest version, should any phone not supported by the update simply be bricked? Should there even be a nag screen and not a straight forced update the next time the device reboots? If you're going to take the hard line, make it truly a hard line.
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I never said that it was wrong to not update, I just expressed my own opinion. It's interesting that you bring up the iPad 3 because while I don't have much experience with that model myself, I know that many people consider it to be the worst aging iPad, as apparently its hardware was never well suited to support the greater demands of a Retina display. It was, after all, replaced by the iPad 4 just 8 months after its launch and taken out of stock while the iPad 2 remained to sell in its place. So, I think even Apple knew that that model wasn't destined for longevity.

But to answer your question, no, obviously Apple shouldn't brick your device because it doesn't support the latest software. I teach at a school that still has sets of 2nd gen iPads running iOS 9.3.5, and quite functionally in my opinion. They of course won't get iOS 10, but they can continue to be useful to students, and imagine how bad Apple would look for disabling a school's iPads?

I choose to keep my devices up to date for a few reasons. More secure (although even older OS versions should get security patches), it allows me to have access to the latest features that the hardware will support, thus allowing me to get more value from the device, and sometimes updates improve the performance of apps and the system as a whole.

Should updates simply be forced? No, but I understand why Apple takes the "nagging" approach, because iOS devices are designed to be as idiot proof (um, that is to say, "user friendly") as possible and a lot of people won't notice updates or realize their importance without a bit of persistence.
 
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I never said that it was wrong to not update, I just expressed my own opinion. It's interesting that you bring up the iPad 3 because while I don't have much experience with that model myself, I know that many people consider it to be the worst aging iPad, as apparently its hardware was never well suited to support the greater demands of a Retina display. It was, after all, replaced by the iPad 4 just 8 months after its launch and taken out of stock while the iPad 2 remained to sell in its place. So, I think even Apple knew that that model wasn't destined for longevity.

But to answer your question, no, obviously Apple shouldn't brick your device because it doesn't support the latest software. I teach at a school that still has sets of 2nd gen iPads running iOS 9.3.5, and quite functionally in my opinion. They of course won't get iOS 10, but they can continue to be useful to students, and imagine how bad Apple would look for disabling a school's iPads?

I choose to keep my devices up to date for a few reasons. More secure (although even older OS versions should get security patches), it allows me to have access to the latest features that the hardware will support, thus allowing me to get more value from the device, and sometimes updates improve the performance of apps and the system as a whole.

Should updates simply be forced? No, but I understand why Apple takes the "nagging" approach, because iOS devices are designed to be as idiot proof (um, that is to say, "user friendly") as possible and a lot of people won't notice updates or realize their importance without a bit of persistence.
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fair enough, all i'm saying is there are two sides to the coin, and what might be important to one person might be less important to another. for me once the device is a couple years old, my preference leans towards maintaining a base-level of responsiveness over getting the latest features.

i'm not kidding when i say the input lag on the iPad 3 was so bad that you could type and the results would update on the screen - not milliseconds - but full seconds later. it made the device very hard to use. it may have been a worst case scenario as you said, but it still happened, and was quite disappointing. it also lost the ability to update apps for sometimes several months at a time. i did clean installs numerous times towards the end and nothing was making it usable.

anyway, i understand apple has to make the default a recommended setting for the least savvy user. all i'm asking is for a setting, buried somewhere deep, with 5 prompts to warn you that its not their recommended approach. i was hoping that setting was the deletion of the downloaded update from internal storage, but it just re-downloads the following night you plug it in. i just want *some* way to remain on a version of the OS that i'm happy with without daily interruptions.
 
stevemiller said:
fair enough, all i'm saying is there are two sides to the coin, and what might be important to one person might be less important to another. for me once the device is a couple years old, my preference leans towards maintaining a base-level of responsiveness over getting the latest features.

i'm not kidding when i say the input lag on the iPad 3 was so bad that you could type and the results would update on the screen - not milliseconds - but full seconds later. it made the device very hard to use. it may have been a worst case scenario as you said, but it still happened, and was quite disappointing. it also lost the ability to update apps for sometimes several months at a time. i did clean installs numerous times towards the end and nothing was making it usable.

anyway, i understand apple has to make the default a recommended setting for the least savvy user. all i'm asking is for a setting, buried somewhere deep, with 5 prompts to warn you that its not their recommended approach. i was hoping that setting was the deletion of the downloaded update from internal storage, but it just re-downloads the following night you plug it in. i just want *some* way to remain on a version of the OS that i'm happy with without daily interruptions.
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I agree. After fair warning you should be able to stop the update requests, but of course still have the option to access the update later if you change your mind.
 
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iOS 10, unlike how it is on an iPhone 6 and 6s, is a total stutterfest for me on my iPad Pro 9.7, unfortunately. It's still fairly fast, but there are plenty of dropped frames throughout the entire experience, much more than iOS 9 I believe.

If I were you, I'd install it and try it out throughout the day tomorrow. If you like it, keep it. Otherwise go back to iOS 9, restore from backup before the public release on Tuesday.
 
I never experienced any of the "keyboard stutter" on the iPad 3 - in iOS 7, 8, or 9. Must be an individual thing. Yes, by the time iOS 9 came around it wasn't a spring chicken, but it wasn't unusable - certainly not the keyboard issues you're describing. Most 'slow' issues were solved by turning off animations.

I'm also curious about iOS 9 on your iPhone 6 - how is it 'much slower'? I can't say that I've noticed any performance drop in mine since they day I bought it two years ago.
 
I bit the bullet last night and it's fine, no stuttering so far. great stuffs. The apple music UI needs some getting used to though.
 
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Updated my 9.7" pro OTA without any problem. Works pretty much like it did before, but I am enjoying the new features especially split safari and new control centre.
Also, as I have been typing this I have just discovered the different keyboard sounds depending on what is pressed. It is good to have an audio feedback of having really hit the space bar instead of another key.
It seems like a solid release.

Also updated an iPhone 5s and an iPad Air (v1) and they are also good.
The 5s seems a bit faster but maybe it is only an impression.
 
Suckfest 9001 said:
iOS 10, unlike how it is on an iPhone 6 and 6s, is a total stutterfest for me on my iPad Pro 9.7, unfortunately. It's still fairly fast, but there are plenty of dropped frames throughout the entire experience, much more than iOS 9 I believe.

If I were you, I'd install it and try it out throughout the day tomorrow. If you like it, keep it. Otherwise go back to iOS 9, restore from backup before the public release on Tuesday.
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I will not install iOS 10 anytime soon if it's causing stuttering on any of my iPad pros.....iOS 9 is really fast and no issues...I will give it a month to see what people really think
 
freddisier said:
as we all know iOS 10 is coming in the matter of days. I'm just wondering if people with iPad Pro 9.7 should upgrade?

I'm quite worried about upgrading cos I'm afraid my iPad would be crippled by the new OS. Just like how my iPhone 6 is much much slower ever since I upgraded to iOS 9. Also the iPhone 7 plus has 3 gb of ram so the iOS 10 might have been designed with that in mind, especially for devices bigger than the iPhone. Am I being paranoid?

What do you guys think?
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iOS 10 will literally make your pathetic ipad pro 9.7 explode because the hardware is so weak
 
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I will not install iOS 10 anytime soon if it's causing stuttering on any of my iPad pros.....iOS 9 is really fast and no issues...I will give it a month to see what people really think
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Are you kidding me? What stuttering?
Have you thought of going into an Apple Store and just try one? They should all have been updated to iOS 10 by now. Then make up your own mind.

Anyone that is is expecting better performance from Apple's latest released iPad and the current version on IOS better switch to another platform because at Apple thats the best you can get right now.
 
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I will not install iOS 10 anytime soon if it's causing stuttering on any of my iPad pros.....iOS 9 is really fast and no issues...I will give it a month to see what people really think
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It's not causing any stuttering at all. If anything, it's more responsive than iOS 9.
 
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