Should they have implemented the UX of the X to the rest of the line?

[MrXiro]

I was thinking about this the last few days. I kind of feel that (besides the home button) Apple should have implemented the new swipe based controls to the entire iPhone line that gets iOS11.

If we all had the SWIPE UP to go home/SWIPE DOWN FROM RIGHT SIDE for Control Center, control scheme we would all be used to the new UX.

They could still allow the home button to go home obviously but adding this would help make the adjustment easier for everyone for when they eventually make every future iPhone run this UX.
The fragmentation between the 6,7,8 to the X is too great right now for for devices that only have 3 real differences.

 

[KrisLord]

I disagree, most users only have one iPhone and so they don’t see this fragmentation at all.

I’m expecting swiping down for control centre to be a bit of a pain, I kind of which it was in app switcher the same as iPad.

 

[spesifikbrush]

My thought is, Apple will go back to selling only one size iPhone, that is 5.8 inches. Maybe there’ll be an SE2 or something. But, the flagship will be the 5.8 inch one. It will not happen fast, because of the pricing of X, but we’ll eventually get there.

 

[onepoint]

I’m sort of surprised they didn’t. Nudging users to get accustomed to the swipe-up gestures, while still providing traditional home button functionality, seems pretty wise if that’s the future of the OS.

They’d be forcing users to get accustomed to new control center calling and a few other things though - I’m sure they weighed the options.

 

[JPack]

My thought is, Apple will go back to selling only one size iPhone, that is 5.8 inches. Maybe there’ll be an SE2 or something. But, the flagship will be the 5.8 inch one. It will not happen fast, because of the pricing of X, but we’ll eventually get there.

Flagship next year will likely be 6.4". The 5.8" is a tech demo this year. It's the largest screen Apple can procure without significant delays. I would expect a 5.2" OLED device next year to improve manufacturability, and to bring down the price.

 

[x-evil-x]

I was thinking about this the last few days. I kind of feel that (besides the home button) Apple should have implemented the new swipe based controls to the entire iPhone line that gets iOS11.

If we all had the SWIPE UP to go home/SWIPE DOWN FROM RIGHT SIDE for Control Center, control scheme we would all be used to the new UX.

They could still allow the home button to go home obviously but adding this would help make the adjustment easier for everyone for when they eventually make every future iPhone run this UX.
The fragmentation between the 6,7,8 to the X is too great right now for for devices that only have 3 real differences.

You’d fail as a business.
You don’t think they want people upgrading to the X? What has Apple always done?
Give features to only new devices so people want them and pay money for them.

 

[MrXiro]

You’d fail as a business.
You don’t think they want people upgrading to the X? What has Apple always done?
Give features to only new devices so people want them and pay money for them.

I didn't say give features away... I'm saying conform the UX so that they match.
Right now Swipe up from bottom is for Control Center on iPhone 8 and earlier
But for X it's Swipe Down from Top Right. Make it the same and so that people are adjusted to the new UX.
And previously they HAVE added features to the old devices... they did so this gen too. The iPhone 6,6s and 7 get the new control center (which my wife will surely hate cause he hates change) as well as adding 5 finger gestures all the way back to the iPad 2 previously when it debuted on the iPad 3 or 4.

If anything this would make the transition to the new devices painless because they would have gotten used to them on a familiar device already.
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I disagree, most users only have one iPhone and so they don’t see this fragmentation at all.

I’m expecting swiping down for control centre to be a bit of a pain, I kind of which it was in app switcher the same as iPad.

I don't love it either but what I'm saying is if they put the feature in all the phones it would make the transition for the audience easier in the future if SWIPE UP FROM BOTTOM is always Home going forward. It seems weird now that 1 phone has a completely different UX but a similar UI and next year when more people move up to a phone without a Home Button the transition will be harder and more people will complain that they don't want it.
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I’m sort of surprised they didn’t. Nudging users to get accustomed to the swipe-up gestures, while still providing traditional home button functionality, seems pretty wise if that’s the future of the OS.

They’d be forcing users to get accustomed to new control center calling and a few other things though - I’m sure they weighed the options.

Thank you! You get what I'm saying!

 

[KrisLord]

I don’t see the need to change the UX that people are familiar with, if you’re not removing the home button on their device.

People moving to the X know the button’s gone and so expect some changes.

Standardising the UX across the range would cause more customer confusion, across a user base that’s getting iOS 11s new control centre today.

 

[MrXiro]

I don’t see the need to change the UX that people are familiar with, if you’re not removing the home button on their device.

People moving to the X know the button’s gone and so expect some changes.

Standardising the UX across the range would cause more customer confusion, across a user base that’s getting iOS 11s new control centre today.

They've done it before but I guess it was more incremental since there was little hardware change.

Ideally they should have made the home feature something different... maybe a 3D Touch input at the bottom and a flick or something other than a swipe. I liked the 5 finger pinch for home they put on the iPad.

 

[sdwaltz]

Nah, I'm glad they didn't - this is why I ordered an 8 Plus instead of waiting for the X. Not quiiiiiiite ready to give up the home button and touch ID yet so I'm glad they allowed us to get the best internals with the "legacy" setup.

 

[MrXiro]

Nah, I'm glad they didn't - this is why I ordered an 8 Plus instead of waiting for the X. Not quiiiiiiite ready to give up the home button and touch ID yet so I'm glad they allowed us to get the best internals with the "legacy" setup.

Well the home button and Touch ID would still be there. But you can also go to the Home screen by Swiping Up from the bottom and get to the control center by Swiping down from the top right.

They did a dual home screen function on iPads before, can't remember if it's still active but 5 fingers on the iPad screen and pulling the fingers together closed the app you were in and went to the home screen. Or you could press the Home button.

This would get people who didn't move onto the X some time to adjust to the new UX (user experience) so that in fall of 2018 when they dump the button everyone that upgrades won't have a learning curve. Unless they plan on running dual phones one with Face ID and One with Touch ID but that seems really odd.

 

[44267547]

Nah, I'm glad they didn't - this is why I ordered an 8 Plus instead of waiting for the X. Not quiiiiiiite ready to give up the home button and touch ID yet so I'm glad they allowed us to get the best internals with the "legacy" setup.

It Makes sense for some resorting to stay with the iPhone 8 because they have an appreciation for touch ID. But I think once Face ID becomes a selling point and is confirmed that it works fairly well, more will migrate to the iPhone X overtime who were unsure to begin with.

 

[onepoint]

Well the home button and Touch ID would still be there. But you can also go to the Home screen by Swiping Up from the bottom and get to the control center by Swiping down from the top right.

They did a dual home screen function on iPads before, can't remember if it's still active but 5 fingers on the iPad screen and pulling the fingers together closed the app you were in and went to the home screen. Or you could press the Home button.

This would get people who didn't move onto the X some time to adjust to the new UX (user experience) so that in fall of 2018 when they dump the button everyone that upgrades won't have a learning curve. Unless they plan on running dual phones one with Face ID and One with Touch ID but that seems really odd.

Settings > General > Multitasking & Dock > Gestures (iPad) is where 4/5-finger gestures are toggled. When enabled, you can:

• Pinch to home screen
• Swipe up to app switcher
• Swipe left/right between apps

 

[Vermifuge]

I was thinking about this the last few days. I kind of feel that (besides the home button) Apple should have implemented the new swipe based controls to the entire iPhone line that gets iOS11.

If we all had the SWIPE UP to go home/SWIPE DOWN FROM RIGHT SIDE for Control Center, control scheme we would all be used to the new UX.

They could still allow the home button to go home obviously but adding this would help make the adjustment easier for everyone for when they eventually make every future iPhone run this UX.
The fragmentation between the 6,7,8 to the X is too great right now for for devices that only have 3 real differences.

I think you mean User interface. I believe Apple apple tries for a consistent UX (User Experience) across all (iOS) products.

 

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[MrXiro]

I think you mean User interface. I believe Apple apple tries for a consistent UX (User Experience) across all (iOS) products.

UI is iOS hence a GUI is something like Windows or MacOS vs Linux/DOS.
UX is the experience of the user with the product. There are currently 2 different experiences within the same User Interface (iOS).
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Settings > General > Multitasking & Dock > Gestures (iPad) is where 4/5-finger gestures are toggled. When enabled, you can:

• Pinch to home screen
• Swipe up to app switcher
• Swipe left/right between apps

Yes those. Technically not needed but they are there. I feel like the Pre-X devices should have the same gestures as the X with going to the Home Screen having a dual interaction (Home Button + Swipe Up).
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I think it's fine that the older models have the old UX, but personally I would have liked a toggle to enable the X-style swipe gestures. Seems easy enough to implement. But maybe Apple wants to make sure iPhones with broken home button go in the trash!

After thinking about it some more... I wonder if Apple will split the iPhone biometric interface versions and have both phones; ones with Touch ID/Home Button and ones with Face ID.

It just seems odd that they don't have uniformity throughout all of iOS11 on iPhones.

 

[Fernandez21]

Yes, they should have. They should have also implemented the swipe features onto the finger print sensor (swipe up Home, swipe right go back an app) along with the swipe down the top right hand corner. Get everyone learning and using the new ui, because eventually the iPhone x will be the base model.

 

[bufffilm]

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or a bad one.

One thing I do w/the new UI...Apple wants to keep it exclusive to the iPhone X.

So we have two.

 

[MrXiro]

Yes, they should have. They should have also implemented the swipe features onto the finger print sensor (swipe up Home, swipe right go back an app) along with the swipe down the top right hand corner. Get everyone learning and using the new ui, because eventually the iPhone x will be the base model.

Exactly my thought process!
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I'm not sure if this is a good idea or a bad one.

One thing I do w/the new UI...Apple wants to keep it exclusive to the iPhone X.

So we have two.

UX; The UI is iOS. What you do within iOS is the UX.

Having 2 UX's is fragmentation... the only logical reason to have 2 is if they don't plan on getting rid of Touch ID.

But if Face ID is the future shouldn't we embrace the future?