Sierra 10.12.4 on Mac Pro 4.1->5.1?

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  1. SteveJobzniak macrumors 6502

    SteveJobzniak

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    Sierra 10.12.4 contains firmware updates for a lot of Macs.

    Is it safe to install 10.12.4 on a Mac Pro 4.1 that has been previously flashed to 5.1 to run modern CPUs?

    Just wanna be sure there isn't a sudden incompatible firmware update that bricks my machine.
     
  2. h9826790 macrumors G4

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    Once flashed, it's a real 5,1. The firmware is identical as the real 5,1. As long as Apple says 10.12.4 officially support the real 5,1. You flashed 5,1 will be fine.

    Anyway, I did the update already, it's safe.
     
  3. Synchro3 macrumors 68000

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    Would be funny if Apple releases a firmware update for Mac Pro 5,1 in 2017. :D

    But no fear, MP 5,1 is on the ignore list.
     
  4. DPUser macrumors 6502a

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    I have updated two 4,1>5,1 Mac Pros to 12.4 successfully.
     
  5. theitsage macrumors 6502a

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    The Mac Pro towers have no firmware issues in 10.12.4. Late 2016 MacBook Pro is one seeing the most changes. The firmware upgrade on these Thunderbolt 3 MBP effectively breaks AMD compatibility for eGPU.
     
  6. chrfr macrumors 604

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    10.12.4 doesn't update the firmware on any Mac Pro older than the late 2013 model, so there's no concern.
     
  7. joebclash macrumors regular

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    How nice of apple to do that. Does apple hate their users?
     
  8. theitsage macrumors 6502a

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    My guess is Apple doesn't like a disruption to its Mac lineup hierarchy. I've recently tested the $80 RX 460 2GB in an eGPU enclosure. The RX 460 eGPU is running faster than Radeon Pro dGPUs in Late 2016 15" MBP.

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  9. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    Does anyone know what the firmware update does? I looked at Apple's firmware update pages but the latest entry for the 2013 Mac Pro is the old firmware update from October 2015. This new one is not listed yet.

    Yes, but only those of us who upgrade and extend the useful life of our computers.

    I'm sure Apple loves the users that buy a new computer every year.
     
  10. chrfr macrumors 604

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    It most likely has some security fixes for some computers, and also changes how internet recovery works: https://support.apple.com/HT204904
     
  11. SteveJobzniak thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks everyone for all the answers! I will be upgrading. :)
     
  12. Jayson A macrumors 68000

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    If someone flashes a 4,1 to a 5,1 is there any way to tell if it has ever been a 4,1 Mac? I just bought a 5,1 on eBay and I wanna know if I got a "real" 5,1 or if it's a 4,1 that has been flashed.
     
  13. owbp macrumors 6502a

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    @Jayson A , In System Report Serial Number and SMC Version cannot be changed.
    In About This Mac it should say what year and model it is but it can be easily changed.
     
  14. CapnDavey macrumors 6502

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    If you computer say its an early 2009 mac pro its a 4,1 upgraded
     
  15. h9826790 macrumors G4

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    There is a little sticker at the back of the Mac Pro (near the bottom PCIe slot, should be just below your graphic card's port). It should say model number A1289. If the EMC is 2629, that's a real 5,1. For 4,1, the EMC is 2314.

    iss1188-apple-mac-pro-a1289-12-core-266ghz-2tb-8gb-os-x-1010-yosemite-office-6.jpg

    Check the SMC version is also a reliable way. A "flashed 5,1" will show 1.39f5.
    Screen Shot 2017-04-03 at 06.00.48 copy.jpg

    However, don't trust the info in "About this Mac", that's totally editable. To make it shows Mid 2012 is easy, In fact, you can make it shows something like this.

    MacNes.jpg
     
  16. Jayson A macrumors 68000

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    Thanks for the info! I knew you could manually change the system info plist. I've done it in the past to get around software installer blocks.
     
  17. ipodman999 macrumors newbie

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    I have a 4.1 with 5.1 firmware and it wants to update the firmware to install
     

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  18. AndreeOnline macrumors 6502

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    Yes, for High Sierra there is a firmware install. This thread was originally about Sierra.

    The firmware upgrade won't break anything—but you'll need a gfx card with boot screen. An Apple original gfx card is recommended.
     
  19. jobarreiro macrumors newbie

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    I downloaded the 5.1 Firmware upgrade, but when I try to install it, I get some message "running Mac Pro EFI Update 1.5 (for the 2010 Mac Pro) brings up a 'This software is not supported on your system' So, anyone knows what's the "catch?" I desperately need to flash to 5.1. Please!
     
  20. h9826790 macrumors G4

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    What’s your current firmware version?
     
  21. owbp macrumors 6502a

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    It sounds to me, from your post and error you’re getting , that you’re trying to run 5,1 firmware update directly from Apple’s website.
    You have to run it through script on netkas forum, to skip Mac model check and other incompatibility issues.
     

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