Sign In with Your Apple ID

[Ambrosia7177]

What exactly does this option mean during setup in El Capitan?

Is it saying that if I enter my AppleID then that is how I will log into my MacBook Pro?

I'm confused.

 

[DeltaMac]

Sign in with your Apple ID.
That will set up iCloud, and some other services for you, and start out with iTunes, the App Store, and a few others with your Apple ID already entered. It also gives you the opportunity if you don't already have an AppleID, you can create one at that point.
It is not directly related to logging in to your account, as that is a separate setup (unless you are going to do something dumb, IMHO, like use your Apple ID as your user account name. I don't think I would do that.

 

[Ambrosia7177]

Sign in with your Apple ID.
That will set up iCloud, and some other services for you, and start out with iTunes, the App Store, and a few others with your Apple ID already entered. It also gives you the opportunity if you don't already have an AppleID, you can create one at that point.
It is not directly related to logging in to your account, as that is a separate setup (unless you are going to do something dumb, IMHO, like use your Apple ID as your user account name. I don't think I would do that.

So what this screen is asking me is "Do you want to always be logged in to iCloud, iTunes, and so on when you log into your Mac?"

Is that correct?

 

[CoastalOR]

What exactly does this option mean during setup in El Capitan?

See this link:
https://www.lifewire.com/upgrade-install-os-x-el-capitan-on-mac-2259941

Refer to "Configure OS X El Capitan User Settings" section, Step 2.

 

[Ambrosia7177]

See this link:
https://www.lifewire.com/upgrade-install-os-x-el-capitan-on-mac-2259941

Refer to "Configure OS X El Capitan User Settings" section, Step 2.

Looks like what I said in post #3...

 

[CoastalOR]

So what this screen is asking me is "Do you want to always be logged in to iCloud, iTunes, and so on when you log into your Mac?"
Is that correct?

You asked if it was correct. The article I linked to answers that question.

Sorry I tried to help. I will not bother you again.

 

[Ambrosia7177]

You asked if it was correct. The article I linked to answers that question.

Sorry I tried to help. I will not bother you again.

Anyone ever tell you that you are way too sensitive sometimes?


You provided a link that goes on for pages and pages and I wasn't sure what I was supposed to read - especially since I am not upgrading El Capitan! (I am setting up a brand new rMBP.)

I skimmed the link and found this which is what I was commenting on in post #5 before you snapped at me...

https://www.lifewire.com/perform-a-clean-install-of-os-x-el-capitan-on-your-mac-2259940

6. Apple lets you use a single Apple ID for signing into multiple Apple services, including iCloud, iTunes, and the Mac App Store. Your Apple ID can even be used as your Mac login, if you wish. This window is asking you to supply your Apple ID, and to allow your Mac to automatically sign you in to the various Apple services whenever you turn on your Mac and log in. You can set the Apple ID sign in now, or do it later from the System Preferences. Make your selection, and click Continue.

And that appears to basically be what I said in post #3, right?

 

[Weaselboy]

What exactly does this option mean during setup in El Capitan?

Is it saying that if I enter my AppleID then that is how I will log into my MacBook Pro?

I'm confused.

https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2...n-os-x-10-11-4s-users-groups-preference-pane/

It sounds like you have not updated El Capitan to 10.11.4 yet?

What you are describing is at the top of this article. What you can do is use your AppleID (iCloud login) as the login for the user account. Or you can choose not to use the AppleID as the login and have a separate login, but still have iCloud enabled separately in System Preferences.

This option is gone with the update to El Capitan 10.11.4. If you already had AppleID enabled as your login, 10.11.4 will leave it in place. But if you did not have it setup before, 10.11.4 will not allow you to do so.

So if you are seeing that option in the top screenshot at my link, I'm guessing you have not updated El Capitan yet.

 

[Ambrosia7177]

https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2...n-os-x-10-11-4s-users-groups-preference-pane/
https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2...n-os-x-10-11-4s-users-groups-preference-pane/

It sounds like you have not updated El Capitan to 10.11.4 yet?

Good question. I don't know. I am asking about a screen that I took a picture of on my new 2015 rMBP during the Setup Assistant.

https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2...n-os-x-10-11-4s-users-groups-preference-pane/
What you are describing is at the top of this article. What you can do is use your AppleID (iCloud login) as the login for the user account. Or you can choose not to use the AppleID as the login and have a separate login, but still have iCloud enabled separately in System Preferences.

This option is gone with the update to El Capitan 10.11.4. If you already had AppleID enabled as your login, 10.11.4 will leave it in place. But if you did not have it setup before, 10.11.4 will not allow you to do so.

So if you are seeing that option in the top screenshot at my link, I'm guessing you have not updated El Capitan yet.

Based on the screenshot I just pasted into this response, what would you is going on?

 

[Weaselboy]

Based on the screenshot I just pasted into this response, what would you is going on?

That article I linked says the option to login with your AppleID (like in your screenshot) is still available during the Setup Assistant you get with a new Mac, so I think that is what you are seeing.

 

[DeltaMac]

Yep, part of the setup.
You can login with your AppleID, or not. The choice is yours at that point in the setup.

Are you asking which is your best choice at that point?
It depends on your particular use of the various AppleID services, and if you need to keep your docs, pictures, music, etc on iCloud.
Entering your AppleID at that point will then check that your various cloud-based services are available to your new Mac, or whatever other device you may be setting up as new.
I usually log in there, then choose to bypass the setup for the iCloud Drive (which I don't use yet), but the choice remains in your hands. No one can really tell you which way to go there, as it is a personal choice for you.
It's not an important part of the setup for a new machine, unless using files and settings that you already have in the cloud is important for you. So, you get to decide that, too.
More info here

 

[Ambrosia7177]

That article I linked says the option to login with your AppleID (like in your screenshot) is still available during the Setup Assistant you get with a new Mac, so I think that is what you are seeing.

What is unclear from the link you provided is if entering an AppleID just gives you the option to use that also as your username, or if it also means that every time you log into your Mac that you are automatically logged into iCloud, iTunes, the App Stores, etc.
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Are you asking which is your best choice at that point?

No, just trying to understand what the implications were.

The Cloud scares me so I want to stay away from it.

Actually that is another related question...

If I already have an AppleID, but I chose "Don't sign in" then can I be reassured that data from my new Mac is NOT ending up stored on the Cloud? (I have heard that Macs are sneaky and can store a lot of your personal info and data in the Cloud without you knowing it!)

 

[Weaselboy]

What is unclear from the link you provided is if entering an AppleID just gives you the option to use that also as your username, or if it also means that every time you log into your Mac that you are automatically logged into iCloud, iTunes, the App Stores, etc.

I don't believe that will log you in to iCloud, but I have not tested it. Even if it did, you can just go to iCloud Prefs and turn it off. The idea here is you can use your iCloud account and password to login so you only have to remember one password.

If I already have an AppleID, but I chose "Don't sign in" then can I be reassured that data from my new Mac is NOT ending up stored on the Cloud? (I have heard that Macs are sneaky and can store a lot of your personal info and data in the Cloud without you knowing it!)

If iCloud is off, nothing is stored in the the "cloud". There is some diagnostic information that is shared with Apple, and you can control that from System Prefs > Security & Privacy > Diagnostics & Usage.

 

[Ambrosia7177]

I don't believe that will log you in to iCloud, but I have not tested it. Even if it did, you can just go to iCloud Prefs and turn it off. The idea here is you can use your iCloud account and password to login so you only have to remember one password.



If iCloud is off, nothing is stored in the the "cloud". There is some diagnostic information that is shared with Apple, and you can control that from System Prefs > Security & Privacy > Diagnostics & Usage.

So by creating an AppleID, that automatically gives me an iCloud account?

Either way, how can I check to see if I have an iCloud account? (I do NOT want one!)

And if an iCloud account was unknowingly created for me, then how can I check to see if it is turned on?

 

[Weaselboy]

So by creating an AppleID, that automatically gives me an iCloud account?

Either way, how can I check to see if I have an iCloud account? (I do NOT want one!)

And if an iCloud account was unknowingly created for me, then how can I check to see if it is turned on?

https://iforgot.apple.com/appleid#!&section=appleid

No. You can have an AppleID that is not associated with iCloud. For example, I have an AppleID I use for iTunes and the App Store that is different than my iCloud account.

You can use the form above to see if you have an AppleID.

Even if you do have an iCloud account, if you do not turn in on on any of your devices, it does nothing.