Significant Javascript speed improvement of firefox 3 nightly

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  1. clevin macrumors G3

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  2. snakedoctor macrumors member

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    Firfox 3 nightly build......WHERE IS THE HOME BUTTON?????????
     
  3. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    customize toolbar, drag home button from bookmark toolbar to main toolbar.
     
  4. Mindflux macrumors 68000

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    First test of FF nightlies. Pretty cool, pretty damn cool.
     
  5. snakedoctor macrumors member

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    That would be great, but there is no "home" button for me to drag. This is the nightly minefield builds that I am using. There was an update a few days ago to the proto theme or whatever its called. Ever since then the home button is gone.
     
  6. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    well, try switch back to default theme, and uninstall the proto theme. Default theme has been updated to brushed metal couple of days ago. proto is obsolete now.
     
  7. snakedoctor macrumors member

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    Do you see the "Home" button? I am using the default theme. I may have to wipe it all off my box and and clean install it with the latest minefield.
     
  8. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    Yeah? as you can see from my screen shot in my first post of this discussion

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    in OSX, first make sure you have bookmarktoolbar in display. when customize toolbar, you can see a "home" label (text) on bookmark toolbar, if you drag that to the main toolbar, it will become a button.
     

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  9. snakedoctor macrumors member

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    That did it thanks!

    I had the bookmark bar turned off for screen space. It will hopefully be a button option in "customize" when it final.

    Thanks again!
     
  10. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    Just think I would mention Opera 9.5's test result is ~10000ms, which is 1.15x faster than firefox 3 beta, and 1.3x faster than safari 3.0.4.
     

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  11. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    its getting more excited, just in two weeks. firefox 3 nightly's javascript performance improved another 50%!

    This test is done with exactly same settings as previous one, I use safari 3.0.4 as standard, as you can see, it gets about the same result as previous test.
     

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  12. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    I have to say its amazing, some developers must have been focusing on javascript part (other part as well probably, but I only have the "feeling" rather than hard data yet) recently, there is another 15~20% improvement over night.
     

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  13. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    still going.. first I thought PGO was turned on, but apparent not, I don't know how much it can still go further, consider PGO will eventually add another 10% on top of it (if PGO will make into firefox 3, its already in windows..)...

    Firefox's UI is written in XUL, javascript improvement really helps app a lot. Firefox 3 looks more and more promising now.
     

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  14. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    another 200ms improvement. At this stage, I am really curious about how fast it can/will go eventually.
     

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  15. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    I did a cross section of tests last night

    Opera 9.26 -- 14521.8ms -- (193.55MB not all)
    Camino 1.5.5 -- 12088.6ms -- (188.88MB not all)
    OmniWeb 5.7 -- 9772.4ms -- (213.83MB not all)
    Safari 3.0.4 -- 9594.4ms -- (234.06MB)
    Radon 1.5.1 -- 7319.0ms -- (189.03MB)

    Firefox nightly -- 3788.2ms -- (95.77MB)
    Webkit nighty -- 3425.3ms -- (241.49MB)

    The numbers in brackets at the end are ram usage after loading a test page that contains lots of images that are scaled down. Firefox went up to around 200MB but after the page loaded it is pretty quickly dropped down to 96MB. As you can see not all browsers managed to load all the pictures.
     
  16. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    I heard opera 9.2 would not finish the test. I have recent weekly build of opera 9.5, it finishes the test, result is about twice as slow as firefox 3 nightly.

    Firefox 3 fixes a lot of memory fix, it is also using the new memory allocator known as jemalloc, which is the new tech in FreeBSD 7. It will take little bit more memory at start, but will maintain better memory management in a longer period of time.
     
  17. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    The first couple of times I tried opera it gave none results NaN but last night I though I give it another pop and it worked for some reason.

    The memory management seemed quite aggressive but the page was just as responsive as other applications so I guess it works.

    After the testing last night I decided to limit my browsing to Webkit and Firefox as the failure to load all the pictures was a big turn off for me. I downloaded OmniWeb just to see how well it did due to recent debates but it was poor.

    As you know I was a Webkit man and I still like its integration but I think once Firefox comes to release and the plugins are updated to work with it I will migrate over to using it.

    Although I still need to work out how to turn off rendering in text boxes as it makes editing images in posts impossible and UK dictionary.
     
  18. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    well, Thanks for being so open minded (absolutely more open than me, lol, altho I try pretty much everything....)

    Opera 9.5 is going through some trouble, which is understandable since they are making drastic changes now.

    Opera 9.2 is extremely fast on windows, I don't know why its not as promising on OSX, but 9.5~10.0 supposed to be more integrated with different OSes. Will have to wait and see.
     
  19. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    I figured that if I was going to change browsers I should see what is availble and how well they work/don't work for what I need them to do.

    I have used Opera on windows and found it to be much better than the Mac incarnation which is a shame as it does have promise.

    Do you know how to turn of rendering in text boxes so that :) appears as :) when I am writing.
     
  20. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    a screenshot? I never have this problem at all?
     
  21. bloomberg macrumors newbie

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    I've been testing the webkit nightly builds for a javascript-heavy website with lots of drag-n-drop interactions and the user experience compared to the default release went from barely usable to feeling like a desktop app. It's great to see firefox improve so much too and kicking some butt with its memory utilization. And now with ie8 hopping aboard the standards train.. internet apps are about to get a whole lot better.
     
  22. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    The first is a quoted inline attachment and the second is showing how the smilies are displayed in the input text box

    Picture 1.png Picture 2.png
     
  23. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    Is that MR's forum?
    click that a/A button on the upper right corner
     

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  24. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    ahhh thank you makes life so much easier. Never noticed that button before :eek:
     
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    So, Webkit nightly is 1.10X faster than Firefox nightly.
     

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